X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <54D3B7FF.7010401@neurotica.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 11:55:17 -0700 Message-Id: <4519DAF0-51CC-4037-94FB-E5EDD1E1EE45@noqsi.com> References: <1420499386 DOT 3521 DOT 3 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150202152654 DOT GA13336 AT cuci DOT nl> <54CFD589 DOT 9040702 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20150203112631 DOT 3507a0c1 AT Parasomnia DOT thuis DOT lan> <20150204054256 DOT Horde DOT Pm1JV8RJbICk9SHvIGwZ7A3 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <20150204193720 DOT Horde DOT 42xUN-NzhCJRWZne-M5eCQ1 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <54D3B04A DOT 3080308 AT neurotica DOT com> <54D3B7FF DOT 7010401 AT neurotica DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t15ItRtY011034 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: > On 02/05/2015 01:26 PM, mskala AT ansuz DOT sooke DOT bc DOT ca wrote: >>> Lua is primarily (and almost exclusively) used in games and toys. >>> That has a few implications of its own. >> >> Scheme is primarily not used at all. Is that better? > > I think DJ made my point for me on this one. Lisp being at the core > of emacs, AutoCAD, and at least one large commercial EDA package that > was mentioned in this thread, I think the argument for obscurity is a > crock of BS. > Except that I know many more people who are comfortable in Python than are comfortable in any dialect of Lisp (although there’s a Clojure programmer in my kitchen at the moment). And while there is some familiarity with Lisp in the EDA community, a bit of review of the gnetlist back ends would suggest there is not a great deal of Lisp mastery in the gEDA community. > However, even if it were "primarily not used at all", if I were in a > position to defend the use of gEDA vs. some commercial product, yes, it > would in fact be better. "Lua? Isn't that for childrens' toys? See, I > told you that free stuff wasn't for real work." > > It's pretty clear that you simply don't like Scheme. That's fine, > just keep it out of this thread. Well, speaking for myself, I like Scheme. I also like Japanese. I would not recommend either as a lingua franca. > > -Dave > > -- > Dave McGuire, AK4HZ/3 > New Kensington, PA > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com