X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: hsank AT nospam DOT chipforge DOT org X-Envelope-To: Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2015 19:52:28 +0100 Message-ID: <20150205195228.Horde.iTz4GtKY5ERqDqjalOytKQ2@webmail.in-berlin.de> From: Hagen SANKOWSKI To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM References: <1420499386 DOT 3521 DOT 3 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150202152654 DOT GA13336 AT cuci DOT nl> <54CFD589 DOT 9040702 AT xs4all DOT nl> <20150203112631 DOT 3507a0c1 AT Parasomnia DOT thuis DOT lan> <20150204054256 DOT Horde DOT Pm1JV8RJbICk9SHvIGwZ7A3 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <20150204193720 DOT Horde DOT 42xUN-NzhCJRWZne-M5eCQ1 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> <90236728-E79D-47C7-BFB1-34140DB85ACB AT sbcglobal DOT net> <8B61C37B-3B46-4242-977F-3C4EE384EF1C AT noqsi DOT com> In-Reply-To: <8B61C37B-3B46-4242-977F-3C4EE384EF1C@noqsi.com> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.2.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by einhorn.in-berlin.de id t15IqT3f025860 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t15IqZ4J010646 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Hello John. Quoting John Doty : > Thus, the infrastructure locks in the language in an important > subset of cases. It is important that the infrastructure be > accessible from a widely familiar language that’s easy to learn. In > my world, people fluent in Guile are rare. People fluent in Lua are > nonexistent (I don’t do games). But Python is ubiquitous. Yes. How about going multiple pathes, while not breaking the old one? And I am aware of the fact, that all the EDA guys are fluently in Tcl and Perl; and someone around Cadence might be fluent in Scheme. I would like to build some functions, to interprete Tcl in a Guile environment and also to interprete Guile/Scheme in a Tcl one. So if someones comes from Tcl easily can use the gEDA tools with their Guile interface. Another one from Scheme can also use other tools like ngspice with Tcl interface quit easy. Both directions become more seamless, right? And do not forget the "competitor" KiCAD also was at FOSDEM. As I understood all (dinner) talks, they are like the edacore proposal also. Let's cooperate! If we like to pimp up the interchange file formats for smooth intergration to/from other environments, and not further using the current ASCII format, something like YAML can be handy. Just the same principles w/ attributes, but a litte bit more eloquent/better code readability while using-the-editor- for-changing-something-quick. Currently I eye-balling every time on the format description to fix the right value on the right position.. Regards, Hagen Sankowski -- "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin (1775)