X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-TCPREMOTEIP: 207.224.51.38 X-Authenticated-UID: jpd AT noqsi DOT com From: John Doty Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_732398D9-C878-484F-AFDE-37B24D2290A2" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-user] FOSDEM Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:39:56 -0700 References: <1420499386 DOT 3521 DOT 3 DOT camel AT cam DOT ac DOT uk> <20150202152654 DOT GA13336 AT cuci DOT nl> <54CFD589 DOT 9040702 AT xs4all DOT nl>

<20150203112631 DOT 3507a0c1 AT Parasomnia DOT thuis DOT lan> <20150204054256 DOT Horde DOT Pm1JV8RJbICk9SHvIGwZ7A3 AT webmail DOT in-berlin DOT de> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_732398D9-C878-484F-AFDE-37B24D2290A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Ouabache Designworks = wrote: > If we could get all the eda teams currently supporting their own tool = flows to contribute to a single open source solution then we would all = be a lot better off. There isn=92t a single solution that will satisfy everybody. Many users = want an integrated tool, but that is never going to scale well to = complex projects with a lot of top level automation. Does anybody really = imagine that a single flow can efficiently cover projects from afternoon = throwaways to complex boards for space flight to mixed-signal ASICs? = geda-gaf in conjunction with ngspice actually covers schematic capture = and simulation for that range pretty well, but not with a single common = flow: you have to adapt it to *your* problem. The difference with other = tools is that they're not so adaptable, so they won=92t be good for = *your* problem. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com --Apple-Mail=_732398D9-C878-484F-AFDE-37B24D2290A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252

On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:27 PM, Ouabache = Designworks <z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com> = wrote:

If we could get all the eda teams = currently supporting their own tool flows to contribute to a single open = source solution then we would all be a lot better = off.

There isn=92t a single solution = that will satisfy everybody. Many users want an integrated tool, but = that is never going to scale well to complex projects with a lot of top = level automation. Does anybody really imagine that a single flow can = efficiently cover projects from afternoon throwaways to complex boards = for space flight to mixed-signal ASICs? geda-gaf in conjunction with = ngspice actually covers schematic capture and simulation for that range = pretty well, but not with a single common flow: you have to adapt it to = *your* problem. The difference with other tools is that they're not so = adaptable, so they won=92t be good for *your* problem.

John = Doty = Noqsi = Aerospace, Ltd.

http://www.noqsi.com/

jpd AT noqsi DOT com

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