X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LO713KD7zg0OPFA+7cbTzDZvMscvG2GFgE95y2TNfC4=; b=k9HhZtTEFLH6bxnvZ3YWlC2gEGb7oaKaLUQgMxCVA8sS24qOkjF1Ufzd5a4IS/hGjA RcsgNudyjcmcJ8I8NfEsrFuHHhZ2BO0y4YGLWOEisbY8POKCXT6vxs/fXe/4Pqx2XeVV hFzh8RBjaRpYweXkSO9+F62xe034V6r/DXUELlShri2XaMH5zFRgsAnoSIBsHHy4yi5o JahWCPHQlcchJwFHGeibtxN3QozYM9fj7+tyk5Yvaa63PDEulTOf9QclRgbX2NpSEdK6 +tJKbVRixn2deYyreUjetuvleFzhtSLw9elQVauVxeL504I3/eeLHnj2Gb3HXzvBqf3B P6kw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.98.204 with SMTP id ek12mr5176184oeb.14.1422658042625; Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:47:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54CBC757.2080804@think-open.at> References: <54CBC757 DOT 2080804 AT think-open DOT at> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 17:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [geda-user] Re: From: Jason White To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t0UMlQl2016307 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk My theory: You lost your ground plane on the top layer when you connected the last trace; you boxed it out (see the difference in the images?). Now you've got a bunch of things that are disconnected from ground; however, the presence of ground plane on the layer below results in a zero distance rats nets lines from all of the pads. I believe those are your circles. On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Bernhard Kraft wrote: > Content preview: Hi, First I would like to say hello as this is my first > post > to this list. Until now I only contributed some gschem symbols to the > geda > project: http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/bernhard_kraft/ I have a > question > regarding a simple 2 layer board. Usually I etch prototypes at home so I > already have some homebrew-design-rules like not placing a via under a SMD > component, etc. [...] > Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) > > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP > 0.0 TVD_RCVD_IP Message was received from an IP address > 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was > blocked. > See > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block > for more information. > [URIs: gedasymbols.org] > -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% > [score: 0.0000] > X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 89.104.9.138 > X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: kraftb AT think-open DOT at > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on think-open.at > X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 > tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, > TVD_RCVD_IP,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 > Subject: Connecting GND planes > X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) > X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.think-open.at) > > Hi, > > First I would like to say hello as this is my first post to this list. Until > now I only contributed some gschem symbols to the geda project: > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/bernhard_kraft/ > > I have a question regarding a simple 2 layer board. Usually I etch > prototypes at home so I already have some homebrew-design-rules like not > placing a via under a SMD component, etc. > > To simplify describing the problem here is a picture of a part of a PCB: > http://picpaste.de/screen1-Bp7Roqnq.png > > Ok. Looks like I am almost finished. Only one ratsnest to route. But if I > route the remaining rat the following happens: > http://picpaste.de/screen2-ZR9DJ7G6.png > > The new trace stopped the top-GND polygon (green) from flooding the area as > it is (unintentionally) isolated by top-CU traces. > > I already tried placing vias into the isolated areas, I tried it before and > after isolating it with the last trace. I tried different thermals onto the > via - no way. > > Is this a bug? Should it get reported? Is the only workaround to manually > draw additional polys and connect them with vias? > > > greetings, > Bernhard > -- > Wer nicht gelegentlich auch einmal kausalwidrige Dinge zu denken vermag, > wird seine Wissenschaft nie um eine neue Idee bereichern können. > Max Planck (1858-1947) -- Jason White