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Well, I changed it to the following:


* gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o spice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch
*********************************************************
* Spice file generated by gnetlist=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
* spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB --=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
* provides advanced spice netlisting capability.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
* Documentation at http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/=C2=A0=C2=A0 *
*********************************************************
*vvvvvvvv=C2=A0 Included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simul=
ations/spice/NE3210S01.mod vvvvvvvv
.subckt NE3210S01_v1 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D1
.param CGD=3D1.4e-15
.param CGS=3D60e-15
.param CSD=3D80e-15
.param LG=3D0.82e-9
.param LD=3D0.74e-9
.param LS=3D0.11e-9
L1 Drain D 'LD'
L2 Gate G 'LG'
L3 Source S 'LS'
C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'
C2 Gate Source 'CGS'
C3 Drain Source 'CSD'
J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D1
.model NE3210S01 njf level=3D15=20
+ VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.08 VDSO=3D2 V=
SAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101
+ VTSO=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=3D0.17 ALPHA=
=3D0.1
+ RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D100 VDSM=3D100 GMMAXAC=3D0.0=
82 VTOAC=3D-0.92
+ GAMMAAC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10 DELTGMAC=3D0.17
+ IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2
+ RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1
+ C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELTGS=3D0.527 DELTDS=3D0.2=
87 LAMBDA=3D0.03=20
+ C12SAT=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2.1e-12 CDSO=
=3D124e-15
.ends NE3210S01_v1



*^^^^^^^^=C2=A0 End of included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtru=
p/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod ^^^^^^^^
*
*=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=C2=A0 Begin SPICE netlist of ma=
in design =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
.options TEMP=3D25
.INCLUDE /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd
VDS1 1 0 DC 2V
Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0 1MV 32KHZ)
C1 0 1 47nF=C2=A0=20
R2 0 Vin 10MEG=C2=A0=20
R1 0 Vout 1.5K=C2=A0=20
MX1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01
.end


Still does not work and with the same error message. Any ideas?
=20

     On Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:24 PM, myken <myken AT iae DOT nl> wrote:
  =20

  Hello John,
=20
 To my knowledge, if you use a SUBCKT the component in question should have=
 a X? as a refdes.
=20
 Don't know what will happen if the name of the SUBCKT is the same as a MOD=
EL name inside the SUBCKT, never tried it.
=20
 Merry Christmas,
 Robert Zeegers.
=20
=20
 On 23/12/14 12:56, Johnny Cage wrote:
 =20
  I am trying to ngspice the following code:=20
 =20
 * gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o spice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch
 *********************************************************
 * Spice file generated by gnetlist *
 * spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB -- *
 * provides advanced spice netlisting capability. *
 * Documentation at http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/ *
 *********************************************************
 *vvvvvvvv Included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulation=
s/spice/NE3210S01.mod vvvvvvvv
 .SUBCKT NE3210S01 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D1
 .param CGD=3D1.4e-15
 .param CGS=3D60e-15
 .param CSD=3D80e-15
 .param LG=3D0.82e-9
 .param LD=3D0.74e-9
 .param LS=3D0.11e-9
 L1 Drain D 'LD'
 L2 Gate G 'LG'
 L3 Source S 'LS'
 C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'
 C2 Gate Source 'CGS'
 C3 Drain Source 'CSD'
 J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D1
 .MODEL NE3210S01 njf level=3D15=20
 + VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.08 VDSO=3D2 =
VSAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101
 + VTSO=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=3D0.17 ALPHA=
=3D0.1
 + RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D100 VDSM=3D100 GMMAXAC=3D0.=
082 VTOAC=3D-0.92
 + GAMMAAC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10 DELTGMAC=3D0.17
 + IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2
 + RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1
 + C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELTGS=3D0.527 DELTDS=3D0.=
287 LAMBDA=3D0.03=20
 + C12SAT=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2.1e-12 CDSO=
=3D124e-15
 .ENDS NE3210S01
=20
=20
=20
 *^^^^^^^^ End of included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/sim=
ulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod ^^^^^^^^
 *
 *=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Begin SPICE netlist of main de=
sign =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 .options TEMP=3D25
 .INCLUDE /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd
 VDS1 1 0 DC 2V
 Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0 1MV 32KHZ)
 C1 0 1 47nF=20
 R2 0 Vin 10MEG=20
 R1 0 Vout 1.5K=20
 MQ1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01=20
 .end=20
 However, on the results.txt file I get the following message:
 =20
  Circuit: * gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o spice.net tic_based_cf739.sch
=20
 Error on line 46 : mq1 1 vin vout vout ne3210s01
 Unable to find definition of model ne3210s01 - default assumed=20
 =20
  Does anyone know what the problem is?=20
  Merry Christmas, John Hellbourne
  =20
=20
=20

   
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nt-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_11644">Well, I changed =
it to the following:</div><div><br></div><blockquote><blockquote><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_11693" dir=3D"ltr">* gnetlist -g spice-sdb -o s=
pice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch<br style=3D"" class=3D"">*********************=
************************************<br style=3D"" class=3D"">* Spice file =
generated by gnetlist&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *<=
br style=3D"" class=3D"">* spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB --&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp; *<br style=3D"" class=3D"">* provides advanced spice netlisting =
capability.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; *<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">* Documentation at http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/&nbsp;&nbsp; *<b=
r style=3D"" class=3D"">***************************************************=
******<br style=3D"" class=3D"">*vvvvvvvv&nbsp; Included SPICE model from /=
home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod vvvvvvvv<br styl=
e=3D"" class=3D"">.subckt NE3210S01_v1 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D=
1<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param CGD=3D1.4e-15<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.p=
aram CGS=3D60e-15<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param CSD=3D80e-15<br style=3D"=
" class=3D"">.param LG=3D0.82e-9<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param LD=3D0.74e=
-9<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.param LS=3D0.11e-9<br style=3D"" class=3D"">L1=
 Drain D 'LD'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">L2 Gate G 'LG'<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">L3 Source S 'LS'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'<br styl=
e=3D"" class=3D"">C2 Gate Source 'CGS'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">C3 Drain So=
urce 'CSD'<br style=3D"" class=3D"">J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D=
1<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.model NE3210S01 njf level=3D15 <br style=3D"" c=
lass=3D"">+ VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.08 =
VDSO=3D2 VSAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ VTS=
O=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=3D0.17 ALPHA=3D0.1=
<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D10=
0 VDSM=3D100 GMMAXAC=3D0.082 VTOAC=3D-0.92<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ GAMMA=
AC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10 DELTGMAC=3D0.17<br style=
=3D"" class=3D"">+ IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2=
<br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1<br=
 style=3D"" class=3D"">+ C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELT=
GS=3D0.527 DELTDS=3D0.287 LAMBDA=3D0.03 <br style=3D"" class=3D"">+ C12SAT=
=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2.1e-12 CDSO=3D124e-1=
5<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.ends NE3210S01_v1<br style=3D"" class=3D""><br =
style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D""><br style=3D"" class=3D"">*=
^^^^^^^^&nbsp; End of included SPICE model from /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup=
/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod ^^^^^^^^<br style=3D"" class=3D"">*<br sty=
le=3D"" class=3D"">*=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D&nbsp; Begin =
SPICE netlist of main design =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br style=
=3D"" class=3D"">.options TEMP=3D25<br style=3D"" class=3D"">.INCLUDE /home=
/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">VDS1 1 0 DC 2V<br style=3D"" class=3D"">Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0=
 1MV 32KHZ)<br style=3D"" class=3D"">C1 0 1 47nF&nbsp; <br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">R2 0 Vin 10MEG&nbsp; <br style=3D"" class=3D"">R1 0 Vout 1.5K&nbsp; <=
br style=3D"" class=3D"">MX1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01<br style=3D"" class=
=3D"">.end<br></div></blockquote></blockquote><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_=
16_0_1_1419335463528_11643"><span>Still does not work and with the same err=
or message. Any ideas?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><span></span></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br><=
/div><div style=3D"display: block;" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"> <div style=3D"f=
ont-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
 sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, H=
elvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px=
;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> On Tuesday, December=
 23, 2014 1:24 PM, myken &lt;myken AT iae DOT nl&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <b=
r><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv0499230664"><div>
    <div class=3D"yiv0499230664moz-cite-prefix">Hello John,<br clear=3D"non=
e">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      To my knowledge, if you use a SUBCKT the component in question
      should have a X? as a refdes.<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      Don't know what will happen if the name of the SUBCKT is the same
      as a MODEL name inside the SUBCKT, never tried it.<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      Merry Christmas,<br clear=3D"none">
      Robert Zeegers.<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      On 23/12/14 12:56, Johnny Cage wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <div class=3D"yiv0499230664yqt0702701014" id=3D"yiv0499230664yqt34040">=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaN=
eue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:=
16px;">
        <div>I am trying to ngspice the following code:</div>
        <div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9336"><br clear=
=3D"none">
        </div>
        <blockquote id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9335">
          <div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9254">* gnetli=
st -g
            spice-sdb -o spice.net TIC_based_CF739.sch<br clear=3D"none">
            *********************************************************<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
            * Spice file generated by gnetlist *<br clear=3D"none">
            * spice-sdb version 4.28.2007 by SDB -- *<br clear=3D"none">
            * provides advanced spice netlisting capability. *<br clear=3D"=
none">
            * Documentation at <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"=
yiv0499230664moz-txt-link-freetext" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.br=
orson.com/gEDA/SPICE/">http://www.brorson.com/gEDA/SPICE/</a> *<br clear=3D=
"none">
            *********************************************************<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
            *vvvvvvvv Included SPICE model from
            /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod
            vvvvvvvv<br clear=3D"none">
            .SUBCKT NE3210S01 Gate Drain Source Ugw=3D160um Ngf=3D1<br clea=
r=3D"none">
            .param CGD=3D1.4e-15<br clear=3D"none">
            .param CGS=3D60e-15<br clear=3D"none">
            .param CSD=3D80e-15<br clear=3D"none">
            .param LG=3D0.82e-9<br clear=3D"none">
            .param LD=3D0.74e-9<br clear=3D"none">
            .param LS=3D0.11e-9<br clear=3D"none">
            L1 Drain D 'LD'<br clear=3D"none">
            L2 Gate G 'LG'<br clear=3D"none">
            L3 Source S 'LS'<br clear=3D"none">
            C1 Gate Drain 'CGD'<br clear=3D"none">
            C2 Gate Source 'CGS'<br clear=3D"none">
            C3 Drain Source 'CSD'<br clear=3D"none">
            J1 D G S NE3210S01 Ugw=3D160 N=3D1 M=3D1<br clear=3D"none">
            .MODEL NE3210S01 njf level=3D15 <br clear=3D"none">
            + VTO=3D-0.95 GAMMA=3D0.055 VGO=3D-0.323 VCH=3D1.03 GMMAX=3D0.0=
8
            VDSO=3D2 VSAT=3D0.44 KAPA=3D0.009 PEFF=3D101<br clear=3D"none">
            + VTSO=3D-10 VCO=3D-0.245 MU=3D0.001 VBA=3D1 VBC=3D0.5 DELTGM=
=3D0.17
            ALPHA=3D0.1<br clear=3D"none">
            + RDB=3D1.0e9 CBS=3D160e-15 GDBM=3D60e-6 KDB=3D100 VDSM=3D100
            GMMAXAC=3D0.082 VTOAC=3D-0.92<br clear=3D"none">
            + GAMMAAC=3D0.06 KAPAAC=3D0.002 PEFFAC=3D294 VTSOAC=3D-10
            DELTGMAC=3D0.17<br clear=3D"none">
            + IS=3D26e-12 N=3D1.5 KBK=3D0 IDSOC=3D0.1 VBR=3D15 NBR=3D2<br c=
lear=3D"none">
            + RS=3D0.8 RG=3D2.0 RD=3D1.0 Ugw=3D160 Ngf=3D1<br clear=3D"none=
">
            + C11O=3D188e-15 C11TH=3D129e-15 VINFL=3D-0.706 DELTGS=3D0.527
            DELTDS=3D0.287 LAMBDA=3D0.03 <br clear=3D"none">
            + C12SAT=3D19e-15 CGDSAT=3D20e-15 RIS=3D4.8 RID=3D0.001 TAU=3D2=
.1e-12
            CDSO=3D124e-15<br clear=3D"none">
            .ENDS NE3210S01<br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            *^^^^^^^^ End of included SPICE model from
            /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/NE3210S01.mod
            ^^^^^^^^<br clear=3D"none">
            *<br clear=3D"none">
            *=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Begin SPICE netlist=
 of main design
            =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br clear=3D"none">
            .options TEMP=3D25<br clear=3D"none">
            .INCLUDE
            /home/af3/Dropbox/Wrachtrup/simulations/spice/simulation.cmd<br=
 clear=3D"none">
            VDS1 1 0 DC 2V<br clear=3D"none">
            Vac1 Vin 0 DC 0 AC 10MV SIN(0 1MV 32KHZ)<br clear=3D"none">
            C1 0 1 47nF <br clear=3D"none">
            R2 0 Vin 10MEG <br clear=3D"none">
            R1 0 Vout 1.5K <br clear=3D"none">
            MQ1 1 Vin Vout Vout NE3210S01 <br clear=3D"none">
            .end</div>
        </blockquote>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9444=
">However, on
          the results.txt file I get the following message:<br clear=3D"non=
e">
        </div>
        <div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9447"><br clear=
=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9445">Circuit: *=
 gnetlist -g
          spice-sdb -o spice.net tic_based_cf739.sch<br clear=3D"none">
          <br clear=3D"none">
          Error on line 46 : mq1 1 vin vout vout ne3210s01<br clear=3D"none=
">
          Unable to find definition of model ne3210s01 - default assumed
          <br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9448"><br clear=
=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9449=
">Does anyone
          know what the problem is?</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9450=
"><br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9451=
">Merry
          Christmas,</div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv0499230664yui_3_16_0_1_1419335463528_9452=
">John
          Hellbourne<br clear=3D"none">
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote></div>
    <br clear=3D"none">
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