X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Cam-AntiVirus: no malware found X-Cam-ScannerInfo: http://www.cam.ac.uk/cs/email/scanner/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-User: pcjc2 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 11:08:01 +0100 From: "Peter C.J. Clifton" To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Cc: Bernd Walter Subject: Re: [geda-user] opper ring flag for vias and pins In-Reply-To: <20140715185832.GA56618@cicely7.cicely.de> References: <20140715173322 DOT GC56151 AT cicely7 DOT cicely DOT de> <53C56BEB DOT 7030701 AT sonic DOT net> <20140715185832 DOT GA56618 AT cicely7 DOT cicely DOT de> Message-ID: <70a6b8dbb9130d0db9bca203a46bb332@cam.ac.uk> X-Sender: pcjc2 AT cam DOT ac DOT uk User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.4 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 2014-07-15 19:58, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:59:07AM -0700, Dave Curtis wrote: >> On 07/15/2014 10:33 AM, Bernd Walter wrote: >> >Because I just remember this, while I wrote about holes and multilayer. >> >I would love to selectively switch of the copper ring per layer on >> >vias and pins. >> >The reason is that I only need to ring on solder side and on connecting >> >layers. >> >On layers I don't need the ring it just reduces space, especially >> >problematic with a via field e.g. inside a BGA. >> >It is not just routing space - the wider space between vias and pins >> >are preferable for groundplanes too. >> > >> So one thing I thought of that might help: >> Set the pad diameter on the Pin[] to the small diameter that you want >> on >> the inner layers. Larger pads cans be had on comp and solder side by >> drawing coincident Pad[] elements with the same pin number. > > This could work as a hack for most cases. > But there are oviously some drawbacks. You need to be able to remove inner layer pad annuli completely for signal integrity reasons on some high-speed lines.