X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xUpZCpsVzQOThlNC3aevMWnwSA4UWErqwPa/n9WIWzA=; b=ZniK4+f8BuScmhDknSUsh6iK3jp4jqoLlDDcYc5T7aFTxVS+KSwjsB9EQ0E9VMPMyw BornPkyBMlc40zvrTEswWaMq+G83vNTTZ2tj0M+uEb851YvlDUanFgM9QoZa3heXa9mq JwXzWcsF6kFRkkXbtt2NwI+cQVTng05025SxKETUqwgkk6qDrjFQUxMupF2YH3d9OITR Y9dsflRGh02dCOIao8xoXgMPj1Ip7y9f5Y6P6ZWmovNQrGnHmwr/PIZayaKWcks0vlyF f3Ge72HaT51Few4dRV4Fn7pyhkXuCzeb9RHit7vWbvD1Ndd/hx3MXK94MH/xqSJRA9Gl LJTw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.174.197 with SMTP id bu5mr3110698wjc.71.1393975278702; Tue, 04 Mar 2014 15:21:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140304202748.27343.qmail@stuge.se> References: <1391043267 DOT 2058 DOT 19 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <20140303174655 DOT A167B807ABF3 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <1393874264 DOT 2120 DOT 51 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <20140304124149 DOT 2ECEF807ABF4 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> <20140304202748 DOT 27343 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2014 15:21:18 -0800 Message-ID: <CAOP4iL1n4QtaxJovT+Yfn+WktOqSamAPY5M4a+YiESkNYuXNrQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [geda-user] Pin length stretch for schematics symbols useful? From: Ouabache Designworks <z3qmtr45 AT gmail DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d1a6050137b04f3d02939 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --089e013d1a6050137b04f3d02939 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, Lets call it the Electronic Data Interchange Format :) Seriously I would like to help in this effort. I am currently working on a open source eda tool suite based on ip-xact and extending it to support symbol graphics is a natural extension. John Eaton On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Peter Stuge <peter AT stuge DOT se> wrote: > karl AT aspodata DOT se wrote: > > Think of, just one symbol. > > Creating a universal data model for parts is indeed key for free and > open source EDA software to have any kind of significant impact in > the world. > > But it is no small task! > > It is also not a task that neccessarily has anything to do with > existing EDA suites, beyond that the data model must of course not > repeat any mistakes that have already been made in existing programs. > > The data model exists between EDA suites, fabs and part vendors. > (User requirements flow from EDA suit and/or fab.) > > The model must encompass every real-world characteristic of parts > which EDA suites and fabs care about today, and ideally also be > future-proof enough that the same model can be extended, as EDA > suites and fabs learn to make use of even more part characteristics > in the future. > > The project as I see it would have as deliverables a specification > document and a portable C library implementing the specification. > > I'd suggest a permissive license such as MIT for the implementation, > so that the door is open for closed source EDA suites and fab tools > to use the library later on, thus giving the project a chance to > eliminate the ridiculous exclusivity of parts within single EDA suite > vendors, and allow for somehow sensible integration across the full > design and production cycle. > > Anyone else interested in this? > > > //Peter > --089e013d1a6050137b04f3d02939 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div>Yes, Lets call it the Electronic Data Inter= change Format :)<br><br><br></div>Seriously I would like to help in this ef= fort.=A0 I am currently working on a open source eda tool suite based <br><= /div> on ip-xact and extending it to support symbol graphics is a natural extensi= on.<br><br></div>John Eaton<br><br><div><div><div><div><br><br><br></div></= div></div></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmai= l_quote"> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Peter Stuge <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:peter AT stuge DOT se" target=3D"_blank">peter AT stuge DOT se</a>></span> = wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord= er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <a href=3D"mailto:karl AT aspodata DOT se">karl AT aspodata DOT se</a> wrote:<br> > Think of, just one symbol.<br> <br> Creating a universal data model for parts is indeed key for free and<br> open source EDA software to have any kind of significant impact in<br> the world.<br> <br> But it is no small task!<br> <br> It is also not a task that neccessarily has anything to do with<br> existing EDA suites, beyond that the data model must of course not<br> repeat any mistakes that have already been made in existing programs.<br> <br> The data model exists between EDA suites, fabs and part vendors.<br> (User requirements flow from EDA suit and/or fab.)<br> <br> The model must encompass every real-world characteristic of parts<br> which EDA suites and fabs care about today, and ideally also be<br> future-proof enough that the same model can be extended, as EDA<br> suites and fabs learn to make use of even more part characteristics<br> in the future.<br> <br> The project as I see it would have as deliverables a specification<br> document and a portable C library implementing the specification.<br> <br> I'd suggest a permissive license such as MIT for the implementation,<br= > so that the door is open for closed source EDA suites and fab tools<br> to use the library later on, thus giving the project a chance to<br> eliminate the ridiculous exclusivity of parts within single EDA suite<br> vendors, and allow for somehow sensible integration across the full<br> design and production cycle.<br> <br> Anyone else interested in this?<br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br> <br> //Peter<br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div> --089e013d1a6050137b04f3d02939--