X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: paubert AT iram DOT es Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:27:37 +0100 From: Gabriel Paubert To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] How to identify nc pads in tsym files Message-ID: <20140211102736.GA26516@visitor2.iram.es> References: <20140210141521 DOT GA6277 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spamina-Bogosity: Unsure X-Spamina-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spamina-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-0.2 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5016] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:24:34AM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 10 February 2014 15:15, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > On this kind of package, typically the center pad is some kind of > > ground/power. It's a bit surprising that you call it "signal", but > > we've seen strange things. > > It's a bit of a strange chip: > http://www.mazet.de/en/english-documents/data-sheets/mtcsicf/download > Thanks, at least the nc are really nc, that's quite explicit in the doc on page 6 ("The NC pads on PCB could be used for PCB layout routing) and on figure 6 on page 9, where it is actually ground, although I could imagine applications where you want to have the backside at a floating, albeit stable, potential. > > Otherwise you can always explicitly show these pins on the symbol > > and connect them to the net that goes to the center pad. > > Yes, I thought about that, but that means if I upload the symbol then > someone might get confused they *have* to use this pin. Seems a bit of > hack, but it's the favourite so far. Do not try to cater to the people too dumb to read a datasheet! Personnally I'd give the net that goes to VPD a name, say VPD, and add a net=VPD:1,2,3,4,6,7,9,10,11,12,14,15 (or a subset of the list if I don't route through all the nc pins). This makes the symbol smaller (5 pads instead of 17 and space is always at a premium on schematics, or is it just me?), its shows only the important connections on the schematics and is easy to edit. Gabriel