X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TzRh5ButJay+cFwhHorxmkgFNY8F2KdcL+h79arzAxA=; b=ID/o2obghnievHJsPW7bc0cjo+9ooGnaz1xcWO0iN3LYccetCBhpFUA2IgqoH0uHnS uYFjeuZtSJ3mIrTwBSliPBH5C+A8dAGhw6SIdrP0ZOE5g4QBi53it/eOLoYlIpM2WhTs 5JqLAGgapY37p5nKe8WNDbxXFhMdLSKrZiajj3i+DTXDTBSOOhiYUTUxcJSEiFHpRcYt oXQmUcO9cxlHg82W8v9BMp+1ZH7WXqnOGcSu1lvaAMDGnZAIuskHj9erAhvnESVzy+bH gN8miAzuoGH+5Z5D+WzxSGeygsQPT1Pk5REohHMy4+9nOe0EaRW6qN64urzIaaWIaETF UQDA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.84.143 with SMTP id z15mr31341975oey.27.1392110674547; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 01:24:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140210141521.GA6277@visitor2.iram.es> References: <20140210141521 DOT GA6277 AT visitor2 DOT iram DOT es> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] How to identify nc pads in tsym files From: Richard Hughes To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On 10 February 2014 15:15, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > On this kind of package, typically the center pad is some kind of > ground/power. It's a bit surprising that you call it "signal", but > we've seen strange things. It's a bit of a strange chip: http://www.mazet.de/en/english-documents/data-sheets/mtcsicf/download > Otherwise you can always explicitly show these pins on the symbol > and connect them to the net that goes to the center pad. Yes, I thought about that, but that means if I upload the symbol then someone might get confused they *have* to use this pin. Seems a bit of hack, but it's the favourite so far. On 10 February 2014 17:11, Frank Miles wrote: > You have to be careful about 'NC' pins. Sometimes these are truly not > connected; but for some chips these are connected to internals in ways > not fully revealed in the datasheet Yes, agreed, I've been bitten by this in the past. The datasheet has an explicit: """ The term "nc" means the contact is not connected internally, is not needed for any electrical function but important for IC soldering (mechanical function). There is no need to wire this contact to Ground. The NC pads on PCB could be used for PCB layout routing. """ So I'm fairly confident :) What I really need is a way of saying "this pin can connect to *any* net" in the tsym file. Richard.