X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 04:31:30 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: igor2 AT igor2priv To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Debug: to=geda-user AT delorie DOT com from="gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu" From: gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu Subject: Re: [geda-user] New router pictures In-Reply-To: <1389653121.2066.15.camel@AMD64X2.fritz.box> Message-ID: References: <1389363489 DOT 2427 DOT 5 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <1389632128 DOT 2414 DOT 50 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> <52D4532C DOT 2040100 AT neurotica DOT com> <1389653121 DOT 2066 DOT 15 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (DEB 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Stefan Salewski wrote: > On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 15:57 -0500, Dave McGuire wrote: >> On 01/13/2014 11:55 AM, Stefan Salewski wrote: >>> I think you are one of the persons who have really used PCB program in >>> the last 4 years (I did not, maybe DJ did) -- have you ever noticed the >>> polygon bug reported some days ago by Gabriel Paubert? There seems to be >>> no reply from other people, so my impression that no one is using PCB >>> currently is supported unfortunately. I myself have no idea about >>> polygon handling and gerber generation, it was my assumption that that >>> was working correctly. Yesterday I found a problem report related to >>> polygon dicer from 2008 >>> http://t14292.cad-geda-development.cadtalk.us/yet-another-dicer-bug-t14292.html >> >> I've gotta jump in on this topic. I've produced about thirty >> commercial boards in the past 2.5 years with PCB, nearly all of which >> have at least a few QFPs on them. I have not, at least to my knowledge, >> run into this bug. >> >> -Dave >> > > Good to hear that a few people are still using PCB, some even for > commercial boards. Personally I do not really care about if someone ever > may use my router, but as the project is on my homepage, someone may ask > me: Why do you work on a router for a program that absolutely no one is > using any more. Now I can point that people to this thread ;-) I am using (a fork of) PCB as well; if that counts as commercial, I've recently finished populating about 20 smallish boards for an internal development at the company I work for. All went fine, gerbers to the fab house with some comments, they didn't have questions, the boards came back perfectly. I still like that it's not integrated with gschem or simulation, I like that I can use Makefiles, the file format is relatively easy to edit with scripts and is friendly to svn. Despite I find most GUI programs annoying, PCB (gtk HID) is one of the few exceptions I could get used to. There are some guys at the company who'd like to switch from proprietary/demo EDA tools to something better, plus an in-house training program lately. There has been some interest in a gschem+PCB course already, and now that more people see the internal development projects (the boards, the system being installed) there's even more interest. Probably there'd be a few new PCB users by the next semester. Regards, Tibor