X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <1389633964.2414.64.camel@AMD64X2.fritz.box> Subject: Re: [geda-user] New router pictures From: Stefan Salewski To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:26:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: References: <1389363489 DOT 2427 DOT 5 DOT camel AT AMD64X2 DOT fritz DOT box> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.8.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 2014-01-13 at 11:10 -0500, Nathan Stewart wrote: > I'll add my voice to the cheers. Ironic, and not a matter of substance, but > looking at these routings reminds me of hand drawn boards from the 70's, > and as a result feel kind of dated. Just an observation and not an actual > criticism - I'll happily give up hundreds of hours of the equivalent of > playing tetris for a working autorouter. > This type of router is not really restricted to this shape of traces -- there exists conversion algorithms to convert to more traditional shapes, as mentioned also in Tal Dayan's thesis, there is an diploma thesis about that conversion available. Conversion is done when other tools require i.e. octilinear routed traces. But for PCB boards we generally do not require that, gerber format supports arcs and lines. > I'll also echo Kai-Martin's question - I know that there are quite often > ciruit imposed rules at a much higher level than the simple design rules - > minimizing metal attached to the switch pins of a SMPS, for instance. Yes, autorouters will never be able to consider all fine details. That is why some code is still written in assembler, some pictures are still drawn manually by artists... We may be able to teach the router to consider some properties, but maybe not all. For multilayer boards, we can always reserve a few layers to fine manually artwork.