X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zooDaEHpE5fj2G2CjrrfoDJbAYTsu2VOOIGdzbMJgg4=; b=ahYuueQ7UiXydAx6G3dLIMK4Oj811jyu8SzSdms+DliY6lxOgiQovyA/PJ3ckckFq/ PMdi3h6czwsd5P7sZ2SBLdMUSeDMH95wISj2htV0i2/P9ViTaFHvPDxDLZPly15oomKi Je/OwAKOsshPz3+O+flSOFmdfvCnVLmNoIWaqdSgXdxFuSnUNnp11qzIp6oRPMr8MI2o KF8XGcofbd1JpW2ApnuozUKE+lkc2h6tLayzqnUskEToz/A3SyyYUi+giTiOclaW2hrE 7LQeQyh0PQLA9091KD4d/HXL87E08evvfzEtIzyqV9Hm3Yybn3XzfwwWbPO0aJtQfTcp Lqbg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.105.199 with SMTP id u7mr35838139vco.1.1381788121244; Mon, 14 Oct 2013 15:02:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 18:02:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] Cheap solder paste source? From: Rob Butts To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343eca1f295b04e8ba9e79 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --047d7b343eca1f295b04e8ba9e79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't mind spending $$$ for good quality known to work well. Digikey has three 9 oz jars for $40, $68 and $90 all claiming 63/37 percentages. I'm not sure what the difference is. I'd love for someone to recommend a source for known good solder paste. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Stephen Ecob wrote: > Be careful ! > > I bought some cheap Chinese "sparkle paste" from fleabay that claimed to > be 63/37 tin lead solder paste. > Having tested it, I have developed a theory of how they make it: > > 1. Start with a stack of industrial waste PCBs or floor sweepings from a > desoldering shop > 2. Grind into a fine powder > 3. Separate out the densest 30% of the powder by rinsing / centrifuging > 4. Mix with toothpaste until it looks about right > 5. sell on fleabay > > This stuff doesn't melt cleanly, it's more like half melting / half > burning until you are left with a molten slag with some silvery metallic > bits mixed in with lots of smouldering grey ash (presumably the remnants of > the fibreglass parts of the PCBs). > > Complete junk. > > For real work I use freshly purchased solder paste from a good brand. I > prefer 63/37 tin lead and only use RoHS if I must. > > Good paste is worth the high price when you see just how forgiving it can > be - I'm amazed at how often I can accidentally smear the paste during > application but still end up with beautiful short free solder joints. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Rob Butts wrote: > >> For those who use solder paste I'm looking for a cheap solder paste that >> contains lead. >> >> Thanks >> > > > > -- > Stephen Ecob > Silicon On Inspiration > Sydney Australia > www.sioi.com.au > --047d7b343eca1f295b04e8ba9e79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't mind spending $$$ for good quality known = to work well.
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Digikey has three 9 oz jars for $40, = $68 and $90 all claiming 63/37 percentages.=A0 I'm not sure what the di= fference is.
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I'd love for someone to recommend a source for known= good solder paste.


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Stephen Ecob <= stephen DOT ecob AT sioi DOT com DOT au> wrote:
Be careful !

=
I bought some cheap Chinese "sparkle paste" from fleabay tha= t claimed to be 63/37 tin lead solder paste.
Having tested it, I have developed a theory of how they make it:

1. Start with a stack of industrial waste PCBs or floor= sweepings from a desoldering shop
2. Grind into a fine powder
3. Separate out the densest 30% of the powder by rinsing / centrifu= ging
4. Mix with toothpaste until it looks about right
5. sell on= fleabay

This stuff doesn't melt cleanly, it&#= 39;s more like half melting / half burning until you are left with a molten= slag with some silvery metallic bits mixed in with lots of smouldering gre= y ash (presumably the remnants of the fibreglass parts of the PCBs).

Complete junk.

For real work I= use freshly purchased solder paste from a good brand. =A0I prefer 63/37 ti= n lead and only use RoHS if I must.

Good paste is worth the high price when you see just how for= giving it can be - I'm amazed at how often I can accidentally smear the= paste during application but still end up with beautiful short free solder= joints.





On Tue, Oct 15, 201= 3 at 7:00 AM, Rob Butts <r DOT butts2 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
For those who use solder paste I'= ;m looking for a cheap solder paste that contains lead.
=A0
Thanks



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Stephen Ecob
Silicon On Inspi= ration
Sydney Australia
www.sioi.com.au

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