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On Mon, 2013-09-09 at 18:32 -0500, John Griessen wrote:
> On 09/02/2013 04:36 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote:
> > Transitioning to GTK+ 3.x will be a huge hassle.  It really is quite
> > hostile to multi-key keybindings, for example...
> 
> On 09/02/2013 05:10 PM, Stefan Salewski wrote:> it is justified
>  > because of the large set of available actions. Of course people
>  > customize to gschems multi-key interface may want very strongly to keep
>  > it.
> 
> Yes, I want to keep it.  It's easy to set up many actions triggered by keys and
> I don't want to lose multi-key keybindings.
> 
> On 09/03/2013 03:41 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:> You can reach about 80 keys without modifier on a standard keyboard, which should be 
> plenty
> 
> Not if you want them left hand reachable so you can be a keyboard and mouse speed layer outer.
> Not everything is autorouting and clean up.  There's more RF needed every day.

If I remember correctly it was gschem which uses multi-key keybindings
-- I have never used that program to make a PCB layout :-). I can not
recall if the PCB program has multi-key keybindings too, I think I have
never used any. But I have not done layouts in the last years any more.
Of course I can imagine that for people doing layouts 8 hours every day
multi-key keybindings are fine, but for people who make only a few
schematics and layout each year, it is difficult to remember key
sequences. I can recall "ve" for gschems view extend, and dd, yy, wq for
vim only.