X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Du3UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=6jktZp3dcHAl1vye2O6wCg==:17 a=jl9P3j1e7_0A:10 a=wniM0YfUJoQA:10 a=oQDvWQo6hwEA:10 a=6WB07kdHjWAA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=wR-FlJDvAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=RME7Cwcw2aEA:10 a=jX2vKNTiAAAA:8 a=M-NmIBWTGFYFSCWYcvgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=eX4Re3VVhGpZr2kx:21 a=lW-4n9zWX6NUaSLL:21 a=6jktZp3dcHAl1vye2O6wCg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 70.113.67.117 Message-ID: <51C7833C.4080108@ecosensory.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:22:36 -0500 From: John Griessen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] 3D modelling and gEDA References: <51B6CDB6 DOT 1010909 AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk> <51B6DB0E DOT 8000108 AT prochac DOT sk> <51BBA5E7 DOT 4040006 AT prochac DOT sk> <1371329763 DOT 11314 DOT 10 DOT camel AT pcjc2lap> <4DFFE27A-47A1-41DB-98CC-490E1AB6085A AT jump-ing DOT de> <20130617012721 DOT 01e56f87 AT akka> <51C48E65 DOT 10508 AT prochac DOT sk> <51C5BC66 DOT 6050308 AT ecosensory DOT com> <6C92EC8D-2A12-4E1B-8C08-C2812F4DBAD3 AT jump-ing DOT de> In-Reply-To: <6C92EC8D-2A12-4E1B-8C08-C2812F4DBAD3@jump-ing.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 06/22/2013 11:29 AM, Markus Hitter wrote: > Hmm. Essentially that means an already working package -freecad- is replaced with a closed source one -Rhino-, just because the > underlying package of the former offers a bit too much freedom. Oh well. There are lots of customers that don't want freedom, they want speed when used by Wall Street hired twenty-somethings with no experience, and someone to blame if anything slows down. Many won't opt for proprietary SW if the FOSS is good enough... On 06/22/2013 07:48 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:> I can't find any hint openNURBS would allow to export IGES, STEP, STL or some other data format useful in other applications, so > using this toolkit means one is clamped to a single commercial application. Unless it becomes the toolkit of choice for easy FOSS development and an interchange between others will be as possible as the CSG the closed tools let out. On 06/23/2013 05:43 AM, Markus Hitter wrote:> Having _usable_ data limits the exporter pretty much to 3D standards like STL, STEP, IGES, perhaps AMF or VRML. But, they all seem to suck, and not get results with volunteer driven FOSS... On 06/23/2013 07:39 AM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:> Markus Hitter wrote: > >> >"We're looking to export 3D data >> >usable in commonly used CAD applications." Some arbitrary 3D format >> >doesn't help, if you can't get it into the mechanical part of the >> >design workflow. > +1 ---<)kaimartin(>--- What is the best mech CAD interchange format today? On 06/23/2013 12:03 PM, Evan Foss wrote:> Your not actually looking at what OpenNURBS is it provides a library > for manipulating STL, STEP and IGES. A ha! I thought something like that, but was vague on the concepts. On 06/23/2013 01:32 PM, Kai-Martin Knaak wrote:> However, > http://www.opennurbs.org/index.htm > only claims read and write of the 3DM format. I did not see any > information on manipulation of IGES, STEP and the like on the > opennurbs website. Can you point me to where this is confirmed? Yeah, me too. John