X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 258375 DOT 90315 DOT bm AT omp1010 DOT mail DOT ne1 DOT yahoo DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1364759292; bh=5DkPIX3ReOvr2ErDHX0ZV3v6ZF8LnXyoijQMuQlrb3g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DLNiG01W6jxEm/GOxmijgNhg8YJMoXnOb6OcwM62CGbwhGBNv+mJoWPffh234JtreooNFCpVjzYgAM0FhE8+wALz1AU4OmtwI2STh7QFFbb9TepPALBpeOACa4g0nbUJDgclp8qS3PcaKpKLEuxYgg7JmaMhclAjO5LWlrPR5LI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=picrNQanpqMz8MmGUUIiwm1tbAoMswydwFlOWAA89OtsrOiVSQb9KYuya2hqTz/5y48FxAuuH3ILASP1q5gQTS/QyQXrMMyknK0t1O0JGhbs4Qv4IJGPARjacONu8CBiZs5s3DEycUkZcGa6LstG61mpnGPrXjacg37LR4K71Ms=; X-YMail-OSG: BVjaSrQVM1mP6C_uwY1BAMdSX9O0lTQYdUsAOWIzwUTjMdR Mjo8Osfv9NuvWs7PkZCVh3FKtPa.DAY1FiUaXk8dFUnkTDfbGc9Pg7MPagDg WeBda_3MsvoxcbCMxVSVQY3AJ_zAoEzLpQ3WLJRk5QchlYoiZvWGe1FvV43w pyRwsY9xCVNL0neaSvJ36BpVaTaHsVSs18i00RaP9fl3hWzH6mImMnzTtuqT jyDtq_ccmY9n33OoTQFWssrA.mWDjEEFK6ph04wZOjuhHXth2EJMjmqWyLKf NsSShL1S3mqdPkxyHxIOmjgXYiL1GPIUAENt8bQPeLC3gKoWbNyufltKZDG8 XAhrird2ZnlNwwA0obYrUncPvgxykjkh5SlOZ.naFU6aqBgv3fYc9P_u2UDX J13nsH2fs8ae5I9wUdsmxIx49Uslgs7KZLHaolQXDcyT7ApeZyVb1.tWTMSM zogcm8YduXxbON4ZAukj2y3PsIT3rwQSryIxo3BKHkkiStiRQ9g6Rtvx6qo9 uF6Q2I5Fez9B4RTXs X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,T25seSB0aGUgQXJkdWlubyBEdWUgaXMgQVJNIGJhc2VkLCBhbGwgb2YgdGhlIHJlc3QgYXJlIEFUbWVsIGJhc2VkLiBUaGUgQVRtZWwgYm9hcmRzIGFyZSBmaW5lIGZvciA5OS41JSBvZiB3aGF0IEkgZG8uIEhvd2V2ZXIsIFRoZSBBcmR1aW5vIER1ZSBpcyBsYXJnZSwgY29udGFpbnMgbm8gb24tYm9hcmQgYmx1ZXRvb3RoIGFuZCBjb3N0cyAkNTAuIFRoZSBSRmR1aW5vIGlzIHNtYWxsLCBoYXMgb24tYm9hcmQgYmx1ZXRvb3RoIGFuZCBjb3N0cyAkMTkuIEluIHRydXRoLCBJIGRvbid0IHVzZSBhbiBhY3R1YWwBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.139.530 References: <20130329161824 DOT GA31378 AT localhost DOT localdomain> <1364741358 DOT 88032 DOT YahooMailNeo AT web120704 DOT mail DOT ne1 DOT yahoo DOT com> Message-ID: <1364759292.24041.YahooMailNeo@web120701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 12:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Comer Subject: Re: [geda-user] Interesting Open-Hardware Project To: "geda-user AT delorie DOT com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-795196629-995328888-1364759292=:24041" Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk ---795196629-995328888-1364759292=:24041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Only the Arduino Due is ARM based, all of the rest are ATmel based. The ATmel boards are fine for 99.5% of what I do. However, The Arduino Due is large, contains no on-board bluetooth and costs $50. The RFduino is small, has on-board bluetooth and costs $19. In truth, I don't use an actual Arduino in any final project. I use the Arduino-nano (the only type that I own) and when the project is finished I use a bare ATmel chip (usually an ATtiny85) and build a PCB. I may do the same with the RFdino when I need more speed, which, admittedly, is rarely. My opinion of Kickstarter is different than yours. I have invested in several projects, none of which were technology based - this is my first technology project. On technology I see, along with lots of junk, some very creative projects that would probably never be launched without Kickstarter as a funding source. Many of these projects will ultimately fail because those involved lack the business acumen necessary to succeed. However, their marketplace exposure will be seen, the creativity recognized and may spawn competitive and more successful efforts. Also, some of the projects do succeed. ---795196629-995328888-1364759292=:24041 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Only the Arduino Due is ARM based, all of the rest are ATmel based. The ATmel boards are fine for 99.5% of what I do. However, The Arduino Due is large, contains no on-board bluetooth and costs $50. The RFduino is small, has on-board bluetooth and costs $19. In truth, I don't use an actual Arduino in any final project. I use the Arduino-nano (the only type that I own) and when the project is finished I use a bare ATmel chip (usually an ATtiny85) and build a PCB. I may do the same with the RFdino when I need more speed, which, admittedly, is rarely. My opinion of Kickstarter is different than yours. I have invested in several projects, none of which were technology based - this is my first technology project. On technology I see, along with lots of junk, some very creative projects that would probably never be launched without Kickstarter as a funding source. Many of these projects will ultimately fail because those involved lack the business acumen necessary to succeed. However, their marketplace exposure will be seen, the creativity recognized and may spawn competitive and more successful efforts. Also, some of the projects do succeed.


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