X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vfodv/9BwHb25qO+Sx9q0T2t0Mxq/oeVuZjux5mxrOA=; b=bNXiP0zR1Yo+zmU1FRcbIAYegB0nIS0O8rYWtKmkHCFCeJ/Xx5y0F0FntDt5Y0Jk18 nS5cVk5Rf5aylh3KbhjCHGnhsbxITUW7CymkYyweT5Ap3LiUGiLf/49H7E3Dsnd9w68l OvjdngPJ6H2ntamicOAQyFSBSXqx+4IN19OzFIlcrS/nR+1Pi+ebwC6sObXbxlOKCb/M SkBnBed5G5VCo9gz4XOPmin4V/7erUpR10O9Dp4DgpQYWrN3XFl5Q2XQIcKjLZbTNyXD Xp9o5NH4a80f+qTgsXKIH3FTLoTrYb1XFmziJysQZUft8vWnikSBerdFqXsAxTHLsfWv WusA== X-Received: by 10.180.90.35 with SMTP id bt3mr14091519wib.4.1364459171379; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5153FEA0.1040801@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:26:08 +0000 From: Iain Paton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com CC: DJ Delorie Subject: Re: [geda-user] pcb layers & shortcuts References: <5150341D DOT 2050406 AT gmail DOT com> <201303251608 DOT r2PG8AfW026082 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> In-Reply-To: <201303251608.r2PG8AfW026082@envy.delorie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 25/03/13 16:08, DJ Delorie wrote: > Look in the source/build tree and find gpcb-menu.res and copy that to ~/.pcb > > Edit that file to not have "m=S" in the "Save" line. Thanks, works great! > The default is a 6-layer board (plus outline and "spare" layers), with > the layers set up so that you can simply ignore the inner layers. > There may be a way to change all that, but you shouldn't *need* to > change it to make a 2 or 4 layer board. Ok, then I'm doing something wrong somewhere.. If I simply run 'pcb' at the command line I'm getting: 1. component 2. solder 3. gnd 4. power 5. signal1 6. signal2 7. signal3 8. signal4 silk rat lines some of my recent layouts have the outline, none have 'spare'. I'm sure I've seen spare somewhere, but can't find one with that anywhere now that I'm looking. Typically these days I'd just start pcb and then do a File/Import Schematics, nothing fancy, and that's much more user friendly than the old gsch2pcb loop, so thanks for that. Although it's my recollection that when using gsch2pcb there was a project file or something that defined what layers ended up in the layout. Confusingly, on my laptop I'm getting the spare and outlines layers like you mention, only difference I can see is they were compiled a few days apart and the laptop is 64bit instead of 32. Am I possibly fighting with some leftovers of a previous version ? but if so, where would it be finding the different set of defaults ? Since .pcb/preferences gets overwritten even if I change it, there's something I'm missing. Need to change it ? Maybe not, but it all comes back to that muscle memory problem, I simply don't seem to be able to un-learn that specific numbers on the keyboard refer to certain layers. Yep, the problem really is me being stuck in my ways!