X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=v6UzIoA5oidXs5cyKjk8gNLBlaW/eCUqTjYCpVLYO+M=; b=XvmbQlykMNxU7N4FQLIcrzzxzysBhNS3wCwrliTvfPvjiP+0i745DUGYIgLOkma2dk kN/Zgv4+vSXJ0eweTWKA6y0w5annIlWj+Rx0hWRkMI2eI8d1V6G0O/hrohg9iAd74Q/L 7eeLrs32xFpQDgcs7RxLsPCQ5eeBhgRw7uJacEP3Xh7nTRqPGU2dyKsk76DUXeODOEgg vB79QQ5cD+RGGLr9ZQA7Gxf0XfYS0UvBH0208hmmqC2T+Ravp06QlKFc7vUsbJTM+s3U HPKh033CGwpnZp/GrpLmxKjbQAZxxQDIpCnVurCh/ENlr66z1LdSKEKrUmFEvLAt+oWF HVpw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.74.104 with SMTP id s8mr7379923vdv.6.1358491240119; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 22:40:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <87wqvhd4tw DOT fsf AT gmail DOT com> <859D19F5-2072-408E-9632-324C2C943163 AT noqsi DOT com> <87bocrviz3 DOT fsf AT gmail DOT com> <40E88AEA-9556-40D5-9567-9DEFCAFFBCFA AT noqsi DOT com> <201301170126 DOT r0H1QVNO006895 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <90674A9C-F296-412F-A99C-372DDA7C70F0 AT noqsi DOT com> <201301170331 DOT r0H3VHsL022134 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <3BC32DEF-2C9E-4FE3-BE18-1B65A4139C65 AT noqsi DOT com> <87librvlqc DOT fsf AT gmail DOT com> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 09:40:39 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-user] geda-skeleton-project: Lowering the cost of a starting a gEDA project From: Vladimir Zhbanov To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk 2013/1/17 John Doty : ... > I would make this statement even stronger: there are people who > are very passionate about pcb, finding it the best thing around. > It's a lot like all the silly programming language wars. Use > what fits your way of thinking, but don't force it on others, or > mislead them into believing they don't have choices. gEDA is GPL EDA. If you want, you can use any proprietary tool but the goal of the gEDA project is to build a GPL'ed EDA toolset. gEDA project has been started on Linux and I like Linux and don't want to buy any other OS in order to lay out PCBs. pcb is probably (one of) the best tool(s) from all the GPL'ed tools which we have now and which can be used on Linux. After all that, could your propose another GPL'ed pcb layout alternative for the gEDA project which can work at least on Linux systems? ... >> Out of curiosity, what is your preferred layout tool? > > I don't do layout. My customers have layout people or > contractors. But, if I had to, I think I'd choose Osmond PCB. > That's what the MIT CCD lab uses, and they seem to have the > quickest turnaround and fewest problems. My only experience with > it has been to write a gnetlist back end, but that made me > appreciate how simple and well documented its netlist format is. > Clean file formats are always a good sign, I think. As for your preferences, please describe your or your friends' workflow wrt pcb layout in the gEDA wiki and all users would be aware of and thankful to you for that. (I believe, it should spend much less time on this than writing posts for this discussion :)