X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [geda-user] Find rat lines From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <201212140122.qBE1MoKM019255@envy.delorie.com> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2012 02:22:05 -0700 Message-Id: <4B677493-A324-430B-A1C2-8E4962D7206F@noqsi.com> References: <20121204183305 DOT 6b04c0dc AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20121208112649 DOT 388a9d22 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <1355011808 DOT 19390 DOT 8 DOT camel AT localhost> <1355188647 DOT 12937 DOT 14 DOT camel AT localhost> <201212140010 DOT qBE0ABjV023762 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <172CCAAB-0423-43EF-8A04-5A9961F1D5B9 AT noqsi DOT com> <201212140122 DOT qBE1MoKM019255 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id qBE9MAVd017426 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Dec 13, 2012, at 6:22 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > >> To expand on my confusion, I cannot understand how this could be >> difficult > > An example of the difficulty: the user selects a region of items on > the pcb and moves them to the other side, or even just moves them > elsewhere. The simplistic "first touch" netlist ownership method > fails miserably with those simple commands, because a huge number of > connections change simultaneously. If every conductive object has a network affinity, I would not think it sensible to change those affinities upon movement. > > Even something as simple as adding a single trace could "short" > multiple existing subnets, and if some of those subnets have been > assigned to nets but some subnets are as yet unassigned (because they > have yet to connect to something known to be in the netlist), So, "first touch" isn't reliable. Is this whole thread really about this problem? It seems to me than when a human or script draws a conductive object it should know ahead of time what the network affinity of the object is. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com