X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=mail.ud03.udmedia.de; h= mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to; s=beta; bh=Yay8 fBN3hTTSm75k18vvQZmlvTbZGrlCtnHz4OuK9Nc=; b=QlgQPgJWjgYAL7GB7DrR fRCmmD6kSL+yqvnfM+3rwzzb0eOA9H7sucvy1E6V/7lKxyvX+iadyeKImhKomiMe 2J0UIbIPehbg9OhuNqh5QZqdJCY5Zq84R29FlHuJv1X75DMb+BtMZ/MBEK24ySzu /78fbal+1P8Q/dvS9B9IcW0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20121209164921.5acd2412@akka> References: <20121204183305 DOT 6b04c0dc AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <20121208112649 DOT 388a9d22 AT jive DOT levalinux DOT org> <1355011808 DOT 19390 DOT 8 DOT camel AT localhost> <20121209164921 DOT 5acd2412 AT akka> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <35569664-3107-4F54-BD56-42EBEB7C0CD7@jump-ing.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Markus Hitter Subject: Re: [geda-user] Find rat lines Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:02:59 +0100 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Am 09.12.2012 um 16:49 schrieb Kai-Martin Knaak: > gedau AT igor2 DOT repo DOT hu schrieb am 9. December 2012: > >> However, if we rephase the question from "what causes the short" to >> "what user modification introduced the short" > > +1. I tend to resolve difficult shorts by simply going back in the > history until update nets does not complain anymore. > > Protel99 avoids this by a different approach: This EDA checks after > every edit for shorts. So the user is notified immediately that an > edit > causes a violation. Do you guys never import a bunch of new or renamed components with (x) gschem2pcb? In that case neither of these approaches is helpful, you start with a big mess and there is no previous unshorted state. When I actually need the behaviour described above, I open the log window and hit O after about every change. Shorts can be seen at a glance, they produce more text that just a "x ratlines remaining". my $0.02 Markus - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dipl. Ing. (FH) Markus Hitter http://www.jump-ing.de/