X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [geda-user] new snapshots? From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <50A6A95C.5030903@neurotica.com> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:24:58 -0700 Message-Id: <355DEF4F-51BB-44A8-A5F4-D8564E7E7885@noqsi.com> References: <50A688B8 DOT 4090809 AT neurotica DOT com> <50A6A265 DOT 6050300 AT neurotica DOT com> <4E8E6F31-EF8D-4540-BA86-7935C1C3E6D8 AT noqsi DOT com> <50A6A95C DOT 5030903 AT neurotica DOT com> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id qAGLP5Xp015330 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Nov 16, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > Further...said with respect...I have to agree with DJ's pushback to > your earlier comments. They are not constructive. The developers who > work on gschem and PCB are highly competent; every bit as competent as > you and I. Understand that I work in the space program, and have lived through the consequences of mistakes by extremely competent people. > Please stop insulting them by vocally and publicly assuming > that anything they do will automatically become a train wreck. In my business, that *is* the assumption. And highly competent people do not find it insulting. We all know that we can make billion dollar screwups (I've come closer than I like to doing exactly that). > I, for > one, like their work. So must you, at least to some degree, or you > wouldn't be here. I'm happier with the work on the foundations. But the gschem UI is what it is, very old fashioned, and trying to improve it by adding "features" has made it harder to use, not easier. 21st century UI's are fundamentally very different. I would support an effort to make a modern gschem. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com