X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 (debian 1:2.7.2-18) with nmh-1.3 X-Exmh-Isig-CompType: repl X-Exmh-Isig-Folder: inbox To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com, John Doty Subject: Objects of objects (was Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was: Pin hole size)) In-reply-to: <66595C14-BF73-4FD2-A842-78EBA12CF9C9@noqsi.com> References: <2CB304B5-9587-4734-84E4-49F464744D11 AT noqsi DOT com> <6BF2E986-51EB-41E9-A4AD-8071CD00B1A1 AT jump-ing DOT de> <834283D4-0891-486E-A981-2FF20B32C615 AT noqsi DOT com> <54CAA7EE-7638-4B89-8197-111D0493F859 AT noqsi DOT com> <508CE947 DOT 4050408 AT xs4all DOT nl> <665E18E2-E9F9-40E4-9DE1-CC8FDBBDCB00 AT noqsi DOT com> <508EE43F DOT 5050505 AT neurotica DOT com> <9B14233C-F3A7-489C-BDC7-F6EAAAFCAB51 AT noqsi DOT com> <508EECDA DOT 8090803 AT neurotica DOT com> <66595C14-BF73-4FD2-A842-78EBA12CF9C9 AT noqsi DOT com> Comments: In-reply-to John Doty message dated "Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:19:40 -0600." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Message-Id: <20121031090732.A88298117B46@turkos.aspodata.se> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:07:31 +0100 (CET) From: karl AT aspodata DOT se (Karl Hammar) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk John Doty: > On Oct 29, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > On 10/29/2012 04:38 PM, John Doty wrote: ... [about pcb] > >> To me, the conceptual mess remains. As I said, it's like driving > >> through downtown Boston: it's all random special cases, no > >> structure. > > I dunno. The boards I make with it work just fine. Why do I never > > run into these limitations, when I use PCB very frequently, while you, a > > person who just said they don't lay out their own boards, see all of > > these horrible problems? > > I can't grok all the magic properties of its peculiar set of > abstractions. "Polygon" doesn't mean a geometric object and > "elements" are not elementary. > The idea that objects are composed of objects composed of objects, ... is missing. ... This kind of recursion is missing from gschem also, or rather from the sch/sym file formats. You can get it - sort of - by special casing a symbol with a source attribute. /// The above kind of recursion would be nice to have, are people positive to a discussion that would lead to an implementation of it ? Hälsningar, /Karl Hammar ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94 Östhammar Sverige 0173 140 57