X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:50:11 -0400 Message-Id: <201210291750.q9THoB8i013249@envy.delorie.com> From: DJ Delorie To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com In-reply-to: <508EBF40.8040703@unige.ch> (message from Juergen Harms on Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:39:12 +0100) Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was: Pin hole size) References: <54CAA7EE-7638-4B89-8197-111D0493F859 AT noqsi DOT com> <508CE947 DOT 4050408 AT xs4all DOT nl> <508D302D DOT 1030105 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20121028164801 DOT GA4859 AT alpha2> <5FF7010F-BB82-41F2-8EBC-608E91E045F1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121028185659 DOT GA16006 AT alpha2> <04438B14-A0ED-4F92-A101-5824420C24C1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121029063943 DOT GA8685 AT fly> <201210291713 DOT q9THDK2C011621 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <508EBF40 DOT 8040703 AT unige DOT ch> Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk > This discussion is excellent, necessary - but most of what is being > said is disquieting for the ordinary user who just wants to put > these tools. Agreed, and we've driven off a fair bit of our user and developer population with heated arguments that serve neither group. We have a strong vocal minority that tries to steer the project's direction for their personal gain, and that's not always what's best for the "ordinary user". > Does all this mean that this kind of user is getting more and more out > of the focus of what is being developed? What should my reaction as a > maintainer for these tools on one of the Linux distributions be? I hope not. *My* focus is not on the niche users, but on the "ordinary user" - as I'm an "ordinary user" myself. I use gschem and pcb to make circuit boards. I have the same wants and needs as most geda users. I think, as an "ordinary user", the best thing you can do at this point is make your opinion known, and keep the focus driven towards your needs. Also, posting about success stories, helping other users get started, and perhaps writing documentation, blogs, or wiki pages about anything you learn along the way.