X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was: Pin hole size) From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <20121029063943.GA8685@fly> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 04:25:13 -0600 Message-Id: References: <54CAA7EE-7638-4B89-8197-111D0493F859 AT noqsi DOT com> <508CE947 DOT 4050408 AT xs4all DOT nl> <508D302D DOT 1030105 AT jump-ing DOT de> <20121028164801 DOT GA4859 AT alpha2> <5FF7010F-BB82-41F2-8EBC-608E91E045F1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121028185659 DOT GA16006 AT alpha2> <04438B14-A0ED-4F92-A101-5824420C24C1 AT noqsi DOT com> <20121029063943 DOT GA8685 AT fly> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id q9TAPJAZ010651 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Ivan Stankovic wrote: > On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 05:09:55PM -0600, John Doty wrote: >>>> I suggest that those who propose a change to gEDA consider whether the change >>>> would be beneficial if pcb did not exist. If not, then the change is probably >>>> not a good idea. >>> >>> Once again, you're speaking too broadly. What do you mean by "gEDA"? >>> Because, the above does not make sense until you start talking about the file >>> format, libgeda, gschem, gnetlist, architecture, OBJECTs, TOPLEVELs etc. >>> >> >> The two projects have completely separate source trees and versioning. By >> gEDA I mean the contents of the "gEDA/gaf" tree. By pcb, I mean the contents >> of the "PCB" tree. > > That is still way too broad. The gEDA source tree contains everything: libgeda, > gschem, gattrib, gnetlist, a huge pile of symbols, scripts and utilities. And if pcb disappeared tomorrow, every bit of that would be useful except for the gnetlist back ends specifically designed to serve pcb. So those are all gEDA, not pcb. There can't be a clearer distinction than this. > Sorry, until you start talking about specific components and explain why a > proposed plan is a bad idea and how badly it affects those components, it is > impossible for me to take you seriously. It is inevitable that when you focus on a particular scenario, forgetting the wider context, that the wider context suffers. This is one of the most common human follies. But you are doomed to fail to take me seriously, since the problems here express themselves in failure to get the details right, so nobody can answer your question. If you close your eyes while driving, I can predict that you will crash, but I cannot predict what you will crash into. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com