X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=seznam.cz; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-Id:References:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=DlHoxuoAohOOUpA5I+YCe8vaBgpVpTVldTb6oOPUqNnVlj5KPvMK/9yMjvDB0wSKW 4JbljCkGrB3uTN/PSlI95rLKAFkwsLkqsj1Pw7nW4jlfQ+65F3RU5KrPNRY3WiGiWr6 zGyCVsxiiSyBMl/ByfcCpWyhz1NLRibL7VVXlhI= From: "Vaclav Peroutka" To: Subject: =?utf-8?q?Re=3A_Re=3A_=5Bgeda-user=5D_The_state_of_gEDA/gaf_=28Wa?= =?utf-8?q?s_gEDA/PCBs_diversity=2C_Was=3A_Pin_hole_size=29?= Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:33:23 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <7V1.Jn9e.7G6zdaowZX5.1GZZ53@seznam.cz> References: <20121028164801 DOT GA4859 AT alpha2> <6BF2E986-51EB-41E9-A4AD-8071CD00B1A1 AT jump-ing DOT de> <834283D4-0891-486E-A981-2FF20B32C615 AT noqsi DOT com> <54CAA7EE-7638-4B89-8197-111D0493F859 AT noqsi DOT com> <508CE947 DOT 4050408 AT xs4all DOT nl> <508D302D DOT 1030105 AT jump-ing DOT de> <5FF7010F-BB82-41F2-8EBC-608E91E045F1 AT noqsi DOT com> <71Y DOT Jn6g DOT QcLTSHBZJi DOT 1GZPiP AT seznam DOT cz> <508DAD89 DOT 9080603 AT sbcglobal DOT net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (szn-mime-1.0.72-5) X-Mailer: szn-ebox-4.3.71-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com >> >> I do schematic design. My customers' layout people do not use pcb. Right now, my major design project is VLSI (under construction at https://github.com/noqsi/VideoASIC), which pcb *cannot* lay out. >> > > Yes, and to put in my 2-cents on the value of gschem alone, I use it to > generate documentation for old and new projects for posterity and > configuration control. Most of these projects do not contain custom > printed circuit boards. I even use gschem to generate mechanical > drawings of chassis and custom parts for these projects, at least until > a mature open source 2D mechanical CAD program that runs under *nix > comes along. I have hundreds of gschem drawings and so far, zero PCB > drawings. OK, now I understand. I personally use just gschem/pcb combination and haven't tried anything else up to now. So my assumption was not so impersonal as it should be. Sorry for that. Anyway I would still like more modern PCB with more modern features and UI consistent to gschem. I had a look at liquidpcb (as it was one of targets of gnetlist) but this pcb is about 2 years without any update. And again, no tight cooperation with gschem... Vaclav