X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was: Pin hole size) From: John Doty In-Reply-To: <71Y.Jn6g.QcLTSHBZJi.1GZPiP@seznam.cz> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:33:37 -0600 Message-Id: References: <20121028164801 DOT GA4859 AT alpha2> <6BF2E986-51EB-41E9-A4AD-8071CD00B1A1 AT jump-ing DOT de> <834283D4-0891-486E-A981-2FF20B32C615 AT noqsi DOT com> <54CAA7EE-7638-4B89-8197-111D0493F859 AT noqsi DOT com> <508CE947 DOT 4050408 AT xs4all DOT nl> <508D302D DOT 1030105 AT jump-ing DOT de> <5FF7010F-BB82-41F2-8EBC-608E91E045F1 AT noqsi DOT com> <71Y DOT Jn6g DOT QcLTSHBZJi DOT 1GZPiP AT seznam DOT cz> To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id q9SLXhiY007482 Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Oct 28, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Vaclav Peroutka wrote: > Dear John, > >> I suggest that those who propose a change to gEDA consider whether the > change would be beneficial if pcb did not exist. > > if there is no PCB in gEDA, probably nobody would use gschem alone. Hikyuu:Source jpd$ gnetlist -g help List of available backends: allegro bae bom bom2 calay cascade devel drc drc2 eagle futurenet2 geda gossip gsch2pcb liquidpcb mathematica maxascii osmond pads partslist-common partslist1 partslist2 partslist3 PCB pcbfwd pcbpins protelII redac spice-noqsi spice-sdb spice switcap systemc tango vams verilog vhdl vipec Look at all the things you can do with gschem's outputs that are not pcb! I do schematic design. My customers' layout people do not use pcb. Right now, my major design project is VLSI (under construction at https://github.com/noqsi/VideoASIC), which pcb *cannot* lay out. John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. http://www.noqsi.com/ jpd AT noqsi DOT com