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Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:20:41 -0500
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On 10/26/2012 01:20 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:
> being non-conformant to any other GUI tool out there.

non-conformant is fine.  An open developed tool/set of tools needs to
be user configurable/user programmable, or there is not enough agreement
to develop it by us amateurs without financier-for-profit funding.

I'll be doing some documentation writing in a while and clear up some
of how to set keybindings.  I'm just not able to divert from task right now for survival
reasons.


On 10/26/2012 05:47 PM, Bas Gieltjes wrote:
 > Is there geda-wiki information? No. Can these options be
 > used to move to a "21st GUI conventions"? Maybe.
 >
 > Not being an expert with geda-pcb, but even those menu's are
 > configurable. Check or google "gpcb-menu.res". Not as easy as
 > system-gschemrc, you also need to supply the complete menu instead of
 > only the keybindings.

I'll eventually write up what I know on the wiki.  I can write fairly well.

On 10/26/2012 05:51 PM, Markus Hitter wrote:
 > Fritzing wins. Simple maths.

The Fritzing main developer has said he sees a progression to geda as
users get more requirements making real world products.

On 10/26/2012 08:47 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
 >> an ugly bug-prone kludge if pasted atop gschem's ancient foundation.
 > Please try to use less emotionally charged terms in the future.

+1

On 10/26/2012 08:48 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
 > Search and replace...what do you mean here?  Does this make any sense
 > in the context of a schematic editor?

You bet it would.  If all conceptual bits on a schematic were searchable,
they would be taggable and relatable to other physical design bits, etc. etc.
for a big gain in usefulness.  Think of fore and back annotation for modeling purposes.

On 10/26/2012 09:13 PM, John Doty wrote:
 > Its integration with gtk is not comfortable. It does work great as is, but trying to torque it into something more modern makes
 > little sense. Another problem is that the Guile scripting is pasted on rather than truly built in, so it hasn't been very
 > effective.

Much less emotion charged and informative for thought.  Thanks.