X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <508AE2CC.8030902@xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:21:48 +0200 From: Bert Timmerman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110429 Fedora/2.0.14-1.fc13 SeaMonkey/2.0.14 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf (Was gEDA/PCBs diversity, Was: Pin hole size) References: <2CB304B5-9587-4734-84E4-49F464744D11 AT noqsi DOT com> <508AD014 DOT 7060003 AT neurotica DOT com> In-Reply-To: <508AD014.7060003@neurotica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Dave McGuire wrote: > On 10/26/2012 03:00 AM, Gareth Edwards wrote: > >>> I am getting SO sick and tired of this broken-ass software world >>> thinking that a package is "dead" just because it isn't crapping out 48 >>> new releases per year. >>> >> ("broken-ass software world thinking"? thanks) >> > Do you disagree with my implicit assertion that this type of thinking > is pervasive in the free software world? > > >> You both miss half my point. What I was trying to point out is that >> gaf has many known bugs with fixes ready to go that can't be applied >> to HEAD. Furthermore, since our last stable release, there have been >> 561 commits to HEAD; these changes won't be appearing in downstream >> distributions until we release again. That's before we've even thought >> about future enhancements and features. >> >> In my opinion, both of these are due to lack of active developers with >> commit access, not because the software is stable - again, in my >> opinion, it isn't. It's just pretending to be. >> > My comment above was complaining about the mindset, not trying to > assert that gEDA had reached "finished" status. The automatic knee-jerk > assumption that something is "dead", and therefore should no longer be > used, because it's no longer under construction, is silly. What if we > treated, say buildings or cars that way? > Corporations do treat both buildings and cars that way ! Err ... everything actually. > Yes, gEDA needs some work done. But you know, I use it every day, for > both personal and work projects. I depend on it, and I trust it. And > when I need help, I can either look at the source code, or ask here...in > the case of the latter, I never have to wait more than twenty minutes > for a response. THAT trumps "constant development" and "new features > every time. > > -Dave > > Somebody else's itch can become our itch if we wait far too long ! Keep reporting bugs ;-) Bring up all your crazy ideas, somebody will sort them out. Kind regards, Bert Timmerman.