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From: Markus Hitter <mah AT jump-ing DOT de>
Subject: Re: [geda-user] The state of gEDA/gaf
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:11:56 +0200
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Am 25.10.2012 um 20:59 schrieb DJ Delorie:

> Why a separate wiki?  Just put it in the main wiki.  We can have
> categories and structure in the wiki, to keep "unofficial" stuff
> separate from "official" stuff.

Excellent idea, IMHO.

> If you want to add to the main wiki, I'm open to volunteers.  Register
> an account and email me (just registering won't let you change
> anything, I need to enable each account).

One experience from another project - RepRap 3D printers - is, people  
are extremely shy these days. I think it's to some extent because a  
few years ago experienced users didn't hesitate to blast out a "you  
fool!" when a newbie did something not entirely accurate. That  
strikes back these days, press stories here and there about people  
taken to court for internet postings do the rest.

Would it be manageable you enable these account anonymously? I mean,  
likely you get notified on account creation anyways, so you could  
easily enable the account without being asked. Or you could set up a  
template to ask from your side, lowering the entry barrier.

Yes, spamming happens. But spamming humans are extremely rare and  
spamming robots usually know how to spam Wikimedia-based wikis, only.  
This other project does have a Wikimedia based wiki and receives some  
30 spammer accounts daily, but only some 5 spamming entries, as  
putting in links to external sites requires solving a captcha.  
Dealing with this requires some 10 minutes a day. It's a high volume  
wiki, receiving some 100 valid edits each day.

> I really want gEDA to be a community-driven "bazaar" format project.
> That means people need to step up and take over parts ...

Please don't get me wrong, I think such an expectation is the end of  
the story for these shy people already. Taking responsibilities is  
simply a no-go, even for not-so-shy people, as we all have sufficient  
other duties these days. For me, every committment is welcome, being  
it a one-off or being it lasting for years.


In this place I want to make sure I'm not pointing a finger to  
anyone. Not to gEDA users and even less to gEDA maintainers. I just  
try to find the hurdles, as I'm pretty sure a few tweaks here and  
there can get the ball rolling again. Seeing a few bits of own work  
in a worldwidely distributed application suite is quite a  
satisfaction, after all.


Markus

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