X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 461235 DOT 78626 DOT bm AT omp1022 DOT access DOT mail DOT sp2 DOT yahoo DOT com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Z5BlRihavTHodvrMSxT+X2wGDZgZv73iwFG/Q7W8hkoc/SgRSkkZa965kwHkZtiOv0lPFOXbxnQWxCCNFjbue1mWOsJvhKlmp0F0NhCRE2XxY/uuYw61sHpB7aghI3dmrQKCc37UNW8Hhu4SjSJV2kAA9t9IaH78rvC83/yi1UA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sbcglobal.net; s=s1024; t=1343081090; bh=qiJ1bhqTTZSyiZ0FEwLbdpcjJ2fhDb6uDou/cV8vZ6k=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bzBw6gm9HzDj0UDloAbhL4aJbxPt4/J5SYEgRWzZ74OHmOqxq1T3O8OEuHKHGeGkJLrCmfzbt+fNlldf8o+azh2rX9wZsqGWxwteDbLDapuXZxM6rgv5VxNd4pGWM9bYAI7NKogiJzgMZ0iwIEt7VcB8bNh/S9XF8HE1Lfr+8MQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: oHbupBYVM1nCwK3Lg36kICTc0zOsZxnIj0L0DgLMpA0jU9U g4I6GjxGvzZFHGVgznIiTcUKCPHfzOEGxKtKBHOoU.SSz0Dq_bI9Y_ok_U6x YJ8yuMp0eUL40honslc16sHZW9cPvg1x5lZ4rpXnlAKkfNedgzls25fq_FyA y2.BIT4DoQMFQe0driiJJUrKGUQIJKsyjeN0HJr80DTO4nNKUOsl85yfL99O 0qq8W8_7XZIGi2tUVpu_DPcRFEsILjENZrxg2u25o1uVvvzYLixJvOl8Jz5x s21khp3Fv3giFHYENdVMFgWNEpqxC6yWoKkVAFXxNKPgUaI5Ws.KCDfoir.I FNenVB3FKNZijazW4P6Spn_Fle0TVraCjC5WY.dOh_kLkzmL7ngpvanB8KPs BiC6JrKzoRUzGapn3He9J4gKrPoPdQUuPqmsaWSLqI0R5yWb.KRN825QR4cJ 17NgRT832JJ36GOaVO2EjIRsJyHpM0Kxfh9i6zTxYYUbu188o5wFSWHnKWM8 4WglRzxdFgPu71mDmYvRoSbBPag71d6FlEiE- X-Yahoo-SMTP: f_DTt3mswBBgAkQlHvfWr7fedPivEj8lM_i1QPTGLa1z0f7XFiw- Message-ID: <500DCA01.2000509@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 15:02:41 -0700 From: "Girvin R. Herr" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Symbol attributes References: <50084839 DOT 9080804 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <201207191830 DOT q6JIUH0o028413 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> <500DB5AB DOT 4000903 AT sbcglobal DOT net> <201207232039 DOT q6NKdvfj020551 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> In-Reply-To: <201207232039.q6NKdvfj020551@envy.delorie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DJ, Very interesting! However, I don't think what I am trying to do quite fits. I will, however, keep this document in mind. What I am trying to do is to allow changing the symbol's symbolic part name at the schematic level. For example, I believe the 7400 library symbol has "7400" entered as text. This text cannot be changed to, say, "74LS00" at the schematic level. I would have to create a separate 74ls00-1.sym file, as well as separate files for all the other variants (S, ALS, AS, etc.). What I am doing is deleting the library symbol's fixed text symbolic name and replacing it with the "partname=" attribute (value only visable), which is editable at the schematic level. Therefore, I only need one symbol file, in this example, "74x00-1.sym" for all variants. This method needs a lot less maintenance and simplifies the symbol list. A side affect of using a separate attribute for this purely symbolic name, is that it separates this name, which could be a generic name or short form of the manufacturer's part number, from the other attributes. Some of the latter can be quite long and obtuse, with all sorts of letter-number codes appended. I would prefer something shorter for the schematic symbolic name. On the other side, if the long name is needed, there is nothing preventing "partname=" being the same as, say, "manufacturer_part_number=" or even "device=". I think it just adds flexibility. It is this flexibility that I decided to keep with "partname=" rather than use "device=". Now that I think about it, maybe an attribute name such as "symname=", for symbolic name, would be a better choice than "partname=". I hope this clears up my intentions. Sorry if I am too wordy in this message. Thanks. Girvin DJ Delorie wrote: > We do have some guidelines for storing part numbers in symbols... > > http://www.gedasymbols.org/csv.html > >