X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Envelope-From: paubert AT iram DOT es Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:18:12 +0200 From: Gabriel Paubert To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Soldering problems Message-ID: <20120718081812.GA2581@visitor2.iram.es> References: <500423C2 DOT 2030201 AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk> <500474CA DOT 5020505 AT estechnical DOT co DOT uk> <50065479 DOT 8060307 AT keensupport DOT net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <50065479.8060307@keensupport.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SPF-Received: 2 X-Spamina-Bogosity: Unsure X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (-4.4 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.8 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 11:15:21PM -0700, Joe Knapp wrote: > I would like to add that water soluble flux can cause issues also. It > can be conductive. I have seen ~50K Ohms between pads on SMT devices due > to organic water soluble not being properly cleaned. This is a real > issue with small pitch LDOs or LDOs with power pads. This can affect the > set point of the adjustable LDO and cause un-desirable voltages. Thanks for all the tips. Actually I'm going to have soon to assemble a board with an ADG5212 or ADG5213. I've chosen these switches because of the very low leakage and charge injection. The signal level will be very low, and close to ground while the power supplies will be symmetrical (+/-9V to +/-15V). I've been worried about leakage due to surface currents, this is an area in which I have little experience (in microwave at 50Ω characteristic impedance, leakage due to a few tens of kΩ would be irrelevant). In this circuit, there are up to 15V of potential difference between a pin and its very sensitive neighbour, where a leakage of 1nA would swamp the signal. The spcaing between the pads is only 0.3mm! As a precaution, I've been inserting guard ring in which forces me to use 100µm track width and spacing. The result is basically: Power pad|100µm space|100µm ground|100µm space|Signal pad|Space|Signal pad|... I believe I can not do much better in terms of layout, but what should I do during assembly to ensure that the leakage due to potential residues between signal and power pad is ~100pA or less. 15V/100pA is 150GΩ, which I don't even know how to measure. I was thinking of cleaning up all residue carefully (acetone and/or IPA). Then the board will be handled with gloves and installed inside a shielded enclosure (no dust can come in). But still, I'd like advice from people who do low level signal measurements. Regards, Gabriel