X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:06:18 -0700 From: Colin D Bennett To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Really, really hidden attributes in sym file Message-ID: <20120710090618.741eba2c@svelte> In-Reply-To: <20120710142137.118FB819FBA1@turkos.aspodata.se> References: <20120710142137 DOT 118FB819FBA1 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator297.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - delorie.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gibibit.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (svelte) [65.61.115.34]:41893 X-Source-Auth: colin AT gibibit DOT com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: c2t5bGVuO3NreWxlbjtnYXRvcjI5Ny5ob3N0Z2F0b3IuY29t Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 16:21:36 +0200 (CEST) karl AT aspodata DOT se (Karl Hammar) wrote: > If I create a file containing: > > v 20111231 2 > T 100 1000 9 10 1 1 0 0 1 > refdes=U? > T 100 -1000 5 10 0 0 0 0 1 > description=I'm hidden > > how can I see the description in gschem (without doing > edit->translate) ? > > Should it be considered a bug or a feature to be able to hide > attributes this way? I think the real bug is how gschem clips the drawing space to nonnegative coordinates. It would make more sense (and make placing components nicer since that's where it goes relative to the mouse cursor...) if the (0,0) origin could be at an arbitrary point in the symbol. This drawing space clipping means it's often clumsy to edit symbols which are near the origin. If you want to draw something on the left or the bottom of a symbol, expanding it that direction, you have to 'et 2000', do the drawing, then 'et 0' before saving. Anyway, you can see the attribute by selecting the symbol and hitting 'ee' (Edit Attributes dialog) to see the refdes, right? Regards, Colin