X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 00:30:02 -0700 From: Colin D Bennett To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Odd Behavior Around Vias Message-ID: <20120531003002.38be5d00@svelte> In-Reply-To: <4FC6FDFA.1020001@innocent.com> References: <4FC6FDFA DOT 1020001 AT innocent DOT com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator297.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - delorie.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gibibit.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: (svelte) [67.160.113.82]:55294 X-Source-Auth: colin AT gibibit DOT com X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: c2t5bGVuO3NreWxlbjtnYXRvcjI5Ny5ob3N0Z2F0b3IuY29t Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 31 May 2012 01:13:30 -0400 Gus Fantanas wrote: > I am using the gEDA package from the repos of Ubuntu 12.04LTS. I > finished a layout in PCB, but afterward I had to increase the > total pad diameter around some vias at the request of the fab > house. After I did that FROM THE COMMAND WINDOW, the clearance > of two vias (which just had the pad size increased) from the > ground plane SHRANK to accommodate the increased pad diameters. > The ground plane on that board was connected polygons to minimize > parasitic capacitances at a couple of spots; the ground plane was > at considerable distance from each of the two vias, except in one > direction. After increasing their pad diameter, the clearance > region of each via should have "eaten into" the ground plane, but > that did not happen. I tested this on my Ubuntu 12.04 install using the pcb program from the Ubuntu repository (version 20110918-4), and at least with a quick test, pcb is working right. I create a via (default settings: 36 mil copper diameter, 20 mil drill hole, 10 mil clearance to polygons), draw a rectangle flood surrounding it, and observe a 10 mil clearance around the via. Select via, enter :ChangeSize(selected, +2mil). As expected, clearance gap is still 10 mil, though the copper diameter has increased to 38 mil. I tried changing the drill size as well, and it worked as expected. It must be some deeper and sneakier bug, unfortunately. >... > their pads further) the clearance check from the ground plane > "woke up." Pressing CTRL-S on each via to reverse the previous > increase MAINTAINED PROPER CLEARANCE! I assume you mean Shift-S to reverse the size change since Ctrl-S is Save Layout. Regards, Colin