X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Message-ID: <4F9BF42B.3020009@schinagl.nl> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:44:11 +0200 From: Oliver Schinagl User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120416 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com CC: Colin D Bennett Subject: Re: [geda-user] Re: [coreboot] Dual SPI Flash adapter attempt 2.0 References: <4F915B7C DOT 9000009 AT schinagl DOT nl> <4F959E1F DOT 6010803 AT schinagl DOT nl> <4F997E2E DOT 7010306 AT schinagl DOT nl> <4F99CEFD DOT 10707 AT schinagl DOT nl> <20120427000813 DOT 26333 DOT qmail AT stuge DOT se> <4F9A67B3 DOT 9020908 AT schinagl DOT nl> <20120427105055 DOT 224822b7 AT svelte> In-Reply-To: <20120427105055.224822b7@svelte> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 04/27/12 19:50, Colin D Bennett wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:32:35 +0200 > Oliver Schinagl wrote: > >> Wow, nice big review :D feedback! >> >> On 04/27/12 02:08, Peter Stuge wrote: >>> Oliver Schinagl wrote: >>>> So the big question is; shall I send this to seeed for >>>> fabrication or does it need some big change? >>> >>> The RN has slivers of soldermask between pads. Avoid this; it's >>> too thin to work at all in production and the component size is >>> so small that you want to avoid any chance of soldermask >>> getting in the way of soldering. Board production processes are >>> not exact, they are messy mechanically and chemically, and you >>> should never push your producer's limits. If their limit is 6 >>> never use less than 8. >> That's just how the part comes. I haven't made or modified it. Is >> there some way to increase soldermask spacing or better yet, so >> set up some minimal with? > > To change the solder mask gap around pads: > > 1. Select the element by clicking it. > > 2. Make the 'solder mask' layer visible by clicking its swatch in > the layer palette. (This causes the 'changeclearsize' command to > operate on the solder mask openings instead of on polygon > clearance... an ugly hack, so be aware this command behaves > differently depending on whether 'solder mask' layer is visible. > > 3. Hit ':' and execute the command: changeclearsize(selected,0.1mil) > (this basically resets the mask opening size) > > 4. Execute the command: minmaskgap(selected,1.5mil) > (this will set the gap between copper and solder mask, > but only will enlarge the gap so you need step 3 first). > I tried that, but then the maskgap runs under the silk screen of the part. So I would need to only increase the gap on the 'inside'. > You can hover over the SMD pad and hit Ctrl+r to see the solder > mask gap. > >> Their limit is 6, i've designed the board entirely using 8; >> however the U3 part, the FET switch just comes in this size, or >> smaller and would thus be impossible to use. >> >>> >>> The SMD ICs and RN all have the package outline on silk >>> absolutely tight around the soldermask apertures. Avoid this, >>> again because the silk is way too close to the pads, and you >>> never want silk anywhere outside the solder mask. > > Will the PCB fab house automatically remove silk from regions too > close to holes in solder mask? Laen's PCB fab does this, so I am > sloppy and use silk screen tighter than is actually producible, for > layout assistance (I wish pcb had some extra virtual layers in > footprints like "placement courtyard", "keepout", etc. so we didn't > have to abuse the silk screen for everything). > > Regards, > Colin