X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at neurotica.com Message-ID: <4F5E4A9F.6080102@neurotica.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:12:31 -0400 From: Dave McGuire User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.27) Gecko/20120216 Thunderbird/3.1.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Very confused...possible PCB bug? Need help. References: <4F5DCE76 DOT 1060304 AT neurotica DOT com> <201203121526 DOT q2CFQgFn006867 AT envy DOT delorie DOT com> In-Reply-To: <201203121526.q2CFQgFn006867@envy.delorie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com On 03/12/2012 11:26 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > Possible things to check for... > > Thermal flag set on a pin that's not over the rectangle, so you don't > know it thinks it's connected Do you mean a thermal flag that has nothing to "be a thermal to"? If so, I can check for that. > Tiny "stub" trace with the join (j) flag set, hidden under a pin Unless it's so tiny as to be invisible (literally), this isn't it; I've audited all pins, pads, and vias individually for stubs. Good idea though! > trace with join flag, in a place where the polygon is otherwise cleared out Now this I haven't looked for...will check for it now. > Try deleting one of the two plane polygons, see which one makes the > problem go away. That might at least narrow it down to one layer. I deleted both of them; that doesn't get rid of the short. That's one of the things about this that's so confusing. Someone mentioned "the zero-length trace problem" in private email; what's up with that? I haven't googled it yet but I will in a moment. Thank you for your suggestions. I'm getting back to it now. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA