X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-user-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-user AT delorie DOT com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=PfW82rmxsMKz3apuodLZLtXDHY1RYwnBb+rtO0MiUlQ=; b=t44ehUYGR+/V9gjCsV+IpQc+PXJsb1vgBC2X1qe08LzcQb6Ym/PKOiKpx02zrabGNU KqBkz/8h3uyA1J7nqFhDViFiHJhplkDJMQQ5l5vrm5iFYu1EsFBnJcWVe9zmDp7iN1iU IQBCOIPdnR3SV2RiY2alFyHdbqNXgpGBwce+Gflnf4rz3jqEREQwgZL4UqnT5vfzklqb i9J3f5cx1ttdrWrcOasPzdfzyxc2dIu/3X4noKeShcjSEzMW8DPiaBDG1GP4fE04umda LJxV8vemv4N3MH0c1ZWsHlAZ7T2crEO72aPsfgLBFvT1s/mcwSCUe6Hj8HuwgjBIqKqK 3eHA== Message-ID: <4F5DD38F.1020300@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:14:31 +0530 From: Abhijit Kshirsagar User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120305 Thunderbird/10.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-user] Very confused...possible PCB bug? Need help. References: <4F5DCE76 DOT 1060304 AT neurotica DOT com> In-Reply-To: <4F5DCE76.1060304@neurotica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-user AT delorie DOT com Did you use 'J' key to join a track to a rectangle? ~Abhijit On Monday 12 March 2012 03:52 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > > Ok, I hate to ask this, for the obvious reason...but I wonder if > I've found a bizarre bug in PCB. I could really use a hand with this > one. This is with the 20110918 snapshot. I'm using the standard flow > of gschem -> gsch2pcb -> pcb. > > Here's what's going on. I'm working on a small two-sided board, > mostly surface mount. It's very close to done, but the message log > keeps telling me that the +3.3V net is shorted to the GND net, and > vice-versa. But I've been going over this for a solid day (a 14 hour > day in fact!) and I cannot find this short! > > I don't know when this supposed short crept in, as I generally don't > keep the message log open as I'm routing. > > When I hit "o", a via and a pin of a connector are highlighted in > orange. They both have thermals to the to board-sized rectangle (I > have board-spanning rectangles for 3.3V and GND on the top and bottom) > but I've gone over them very carefully and they don't seem to be in > play. Now here's where things get weird...which vias and pins are > highlighted in orange are not consistent! If I delete the connector > whose pin gets highlighted, then hit "o" again, of course I'll get all > sorts of "not found" messages in the log due to the missing connector, > but a DIFFERENT pin on a different connector then gets highlighted in > orange. > > If I delete the GND and 3.3V planes, the supposed short remains. If > I delete all connections to the orange-highlighted pins, that doesn't > get rid of it either. I've looked at it a zillion different ways and > tried a zillion different things (looked for hidden pieces of former > traces lying around, etc) and nothing has gotten me past this. > > It's worth mentioning that I've designed about five boards with this > flow on this exact set of software, on this system, with no changes > save for a few added symbols and footprints. All the way to copper > deployed in the field, no problems whatsoever. This stuff works > great, as always. Until this weird situation. > > Are there any known conditions in which PCB might think that two > nets are shorted when they actually aren't? Does anyone have any > suggestions as to how I might chase this? > > -Dave >