X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-TMN: [uN/q+OLgMUeBVZM9KM4R1IWgQcC8eBxD] X-Originating-Email: [vuokko AT msn DOT com] Message-ID: From: "Hannu Vuolasaho (vuokko AT msn DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" To: "geda-help AT delorie DOT com" Subject: RE: [geda-help] General PCB Layout Question on Two Layer Board Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:13:53 +0300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <154458525.2834155.1440913194077.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> References: ,<154458525 DOT 2834155 DOT 1440913194077 DOT JavaMail DOT yahoo AT mail DOT yahoo DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Aug 2015 18:13:53.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[A0FB4E10:01D0E34F] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id t7UIE34g032410 Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Keantoken wrote: > You want all > significant currents to be in pairs so that the fields will cancel. It > helps to know which nodes in your circuit are susceptible to leakage > from which other nodes and which kind of parasitics. You can identify > several traces which hardly matter at all and abuse them to make room > for the important traces. And often you can also say that a parasitic > will be helpful at a certain node. > > Using a uniform ground plane with a 2-layer board means your traces may > have to be MUCH longer and thinner in order to get everything without > jumpers. So a good question to ask is, when do the parasitics of a long > and/or thin trace outweigh the benefits of a ground plane? Keantoken is right. I've build small video amplifier with SMPS with only two rules: Think about return path and keep loops short. PSU gave 3V 1A from 12V. I used separated ground planes for PSU and amplifier. It isn't that big sin if you have trace same direction as return current but across the current flow is bad.. The big trickery I did was adding piece single layer board over amplifier input trace to cover it with signal ground. That cancelled almost all noise from input. There are also some good graphs in Ott's EMI book. Select right way to bring in the inputs and export outputs. Text is also good... Anyway, try and prototype. Remember to have fun with electronics. That's how you learn and some day you'll have revered grey beard. -- Hannu Vuolasaho