X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Sender-Id: hostpapa|x-authuser|camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca ARC-Seal: i=1; s=arc-2022; d=mailchannels.net; t=1694446013; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=SvmPz6jHqannYDHCjDXYUkjXswPXsnT7k1Jt7grC+KvzbOSa3gZe/RBZw1RDAt1I1wVdmH n2UD8vUbtaD0R4ChWr6amtzSWlf93wNUjFZd4WKdpaJMC/X9Y12PowMh5qISfptLdS+qZu jKGMqfAXwT+OKStJ0h8NvaOw1rbOITFQ0oIk/nWzOtYdHCRGA+ILjK/SX9CVl8d1bbr1Nx yNdQhwUVENEL9S5NEmu9a88+hYgK9p0gqDK98hnLJP2xif93e4C2wrDPRWHAVEMdBWga3u 7NuInmoGKKVw9W1U5zXOOcsEKZAAdSV58J8/cYEUatALLMgdWArOG1wchyBb0A== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailchannels.net; s=arc-2022; t=1694446013; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=aT+K+jiu3ManAzNCrYP/z1NIVpkm37r3Njo40sOi4y0=; b=49+DW2yq2cLrK6+SHOHPssX4x3FiBqfOyyHGC3llr9/zP5hfsrC/KyNVgHOusrOYsE0UJa qbGs1KXr67WMh62qAeESXHYijvosVsjEcq1dZWJUkDIaH/J6t6Z9B8AEXY/PadQc5xsBef 5sy1oCvqLwMb4wX4fUhQjuQJjVWahTkUyVax8zboukMQCOs5ETJmlG4PK9Tt1yIH/lL3CX eF3ydOgMWGNqx8MZ79yTIlfBCoh4qOoJ/p43QqTs20QtN3PLoFcGBm8EqC4IngtJjmhLpP musK3ST1epj1DIe3RBWEHu0hacZTmROR7iTFbYEbaKvHzQuWHJkdoDSRf8NbwA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; rspamd-7d5dc8fd68-wmqlj; auth=pass smtp.auth=hostpapa smtp.mailfrom=camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca X-Sender-Id: hostpapa|x-authuser|camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: hostpapa|x-authuser|camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: hostpapa X-Absorbed-Wide-Eyed: 056df10b692b5d03_1694446013740_2882171493 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1694446013740:830910562 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1694446013740 X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bitflipper.ca; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:From:References:To:Subject:Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID: Sender:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aT+K+jiu3ManAzNCrYP/z1NIVpkm37r3Njo40sOi4y0=; b=n+m5b+0/ArU+Ap2cijmprNUI0i Lx1y8XvQXDSn0NXu8B1YQt+oSwLJXSYUd3isnQtsLm4fW1/l6uZt5kuifGsq7EDq+LLyF9FAUGXw8 912MOCwUXGv6cphdYwDta+Qr/BJ7GsImwnUS+v1fhg+2NF+6FTF0kn5vWwwRvIhY64a7lnt5smHXu v4RokIKXtjgLk8Pj4l30ZYoZ+I+SFGN1RFN067SzD5ud49F2OQZh1fceUS4Jbax2FifavWjOvrXB/ 45rRywDOYpkC1kNVmrbWoD7Hz2MVAl1VSZZjw3mpleWlPKkt88bt1WiHhtQR77OzP+aRzpiq/HLmZ du5+5zXQ==; Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 12:26:50 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 Subject: Re: [geda-help] Help understanding messages from auto-router Content-Language: en-US To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com References: <303ee229-82da-5c5a-880f-7dc249c5dd9f AT bitflipper DOT ca> <146fcb0b-d2ac-763c-106c-7a9d074bdd49 AT bitflipper DOT ca> <20230911123941 DOT 3D0FB8619A37 AT turkos DOT aspodata DOT se> From: "Cam (camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" In-Reply-To: <20230911123941.3D0FB8619A37@turkos.aspodata.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-AuthUser: camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id 38BFQtJb001860 Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Hi Karl, That python program is a quick-and-dirty hack that would take rather a lot of work to bring it to a state suitable for sharing. I've taken a brief look at pcb-rnd but the sparse documentation is discouraging. Cheers Cam On 2023-09-11 09:39, karl AT aspodata DOT se [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Cam Farnell: >> Well, having had no response here, I wrote a Python program which > ... > > Very nice, I did something similar but in perl as a perl module (kind > of a lib): http://aspodata.se/git/openhw/bin/Pcb.pm > > You could possible help a fellow by publish your program as a lib. > >> But, given the silence here, I suppose the real message is that I >> should be using pcb-rnd instead. > > pcb-rnd should give you more options, and the real action have moved > there. The only downside with pcb-rnd is much bigger files, but in > every other aspect it should be better. > >> On 2023-09-02 20:47, Cam (camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>> I'm running PCB "version 4.2.2, Compiled on MarĀ  9 2022 at 23:53:29" on an Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS machine. >>> >>> After running the auto-router on my board, I get the following messages: >>> >>> 692 rat lines remaining >>> 692 of 692 nets successfully routed. >>> Dropping via at (2272.50, 3587.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (2272.50, 3572.50) mil > ... >>> Dropping via at (5757.50, 2996.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (5757.50, 3011.50) mil >>> Total added wire length = 41.38553 m, 2476 vias added >>> Congratulations!! >>> The layout is complete and has no shorted nets. >>> >>> Are these "dropping via" messages something I need to be concerned >>> about? Missing vias would be bad. I couldn't find anything in the >>> manual about this. > > Well the message says that the router will not place vias at > overlapping positions, which seems to be a good thing. > > Since you got a "The layout is complete and has no shorted nets." > there will not be any missing connections, it says all things are > connected and there are no shorts. Finish this off by doing a drc > to make sure that this is manufacturable. > > Regards, > /Karl Hammar > >