X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Sender-Id: hostpapa|x-authuser|camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca ARC-Seal: i=1; s=arc-2022; d=mailchannels.net; t=1694281467; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=inTJdTKqcwOIIWMa4Mkb54dic0Pk+S9Uw6ZqQAIrupM6NZ21hjGlx+GcKkNBQJJ8wYiM+K StakGhCqlTv+bbD4xWblIj8JJDSxfWm+fjltCUHmcEGInC2Q6hSwt5IyNtQv2M8mvq4u/f mEgQDy/4Ry0OMGoPhUW6frjZKnb25PkQhdLtYheaA/p6QMwpv+0Yh3bsIHPX69fV3VTyTf RsVtDbW63luKbCSNn4d1RRNxej7Ka8o+P86PJ+32C94k7gtO77frcf8nRSIpykpT/ntM6D A0bOayydtYWil+atJYWo7/kVjpYwZL0nryiNapKx/w3VCd/xMzt3PbCi9lz5jQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mailchannels.net; s=arc-2022; t=1694281467; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:dkim-signature; bh=BdnjYPBqUKRbV6TJE0E0IGMSoRjtv5BlMS+6VkDziuM=; b=tDqB7twM6mga/Dui4EEeuHCVeajI0kdVfSD8j133uHW3kMHCkoBNq+cfm34mYkCKdCcoG9 DjhhepHRfDczS9852Pd3k1fLnhlrSr3UyIiCjigvqJdXsPy1jgJdrnhXn/5E/SJe1xcG2l G5WgGsKa7gYTeZn+DT2E0RLDBmBjaDYvCcBuiv/zWMyGwoK/McZAGTbpBMC6mDiCr4rLi+ ig3Z/GxHaSrUu9mkSMPG6ypH84wAMkwcKQex3YkGGhM9TTA3f7lhe468KWof69jMUXagm1 dt3rYkaFHiN8oo2qMQ90IKGaDA6STUGZYR9Hwhib9AHgHDoSqZBQsRje5BUPMQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; rspamd-7c449d4847-7tvvk; auth=pass smtp.auth=hostpapa smtp.mailfrom=camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca X-Sender-Id: hostpapa|x-authuser|camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: hostpapa|x-authuser|camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: hostpapa X-Descriptive-Broad: 42d029a30d787ca1_1694281467594_3323137874 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1694281467594:2733108066 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1694281467594 X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bitflipper.ca; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:From:References:To:Subject:Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID: Sender:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=BdnjYPBqUKRbV6TJE0E0IGMSoRjtv5BlMS+6VkDziuM=; b=Tn+M0490GXWz8O2LQaD2Rd5Qkz OZVKVMP4E2zoZVQHUNrP8YUbNogST8gkdiATBz2/J+GDMM5tpnwQ5n6I8p0RNlUFIg5b650BymmV8 gHSU1xgu5cxcRPOuWM1CqFo9KJW1V19CHuCbL4TQjmlZg+xLToJ2uUz0Mzj9tyk+ZPkjEpJBgcOyW lMyKFMPH6L/8MAxce1qcDpgIqJvAVwsvN0EBPB98QhrHzXbLrFndTUP2F5HtOUzu8d9iug6qZl6gr 3SquTWB6xDdlwNBOgxKbnSLqtwivHdCD4DZE1ZFTBSP9ZqecLkBgJH3iSrQRHgd4oY1cMCeS6/rsL GDIytfUw==; Message-ID: <146fcb0b-d2ac-763c-106c-7a9d074bdd49@bitflipper.ca> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2023 14:44:24 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.15.0 Subject: Re: [geda-help] Help understanding messages from auto-router To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com References: <303ee229-82da-5c5a-880f-7dc249c5dd9f AT bitflipper DOT ca> Content-Language: en-US From: "Cam (camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" In-Reply-To: <303ee229-82da-5c5a-880f-7dc249c5dd9f@bitflipper.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-AuthUser: camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by delorie.com id 389HiVVQ017782 Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Well, having had no response here, I wrote a Python program which reads in the .pcb file, checks all the lines to see who connects to who and which lines connect to pins, then verifies that at the requested nets match what the line, vias and pins actually do. There were no missing vias, so those perplexing messages apparently convey nothing important. But, given the silence here, I suppose the real message is that I should be using pcb-rnd instead. Cheers Cam On 2023-09-02 20:47, Cam (camfarnell AT bitflipper DOT ca) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > I'm running PCB "version 4.2.2, Compiled on MarĀ  9 2022 at 23:53:29" on an Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS machine. > > After running the auto-router on my board, I get the following messages: > > 692 rat lines remaining > 692 of 692 nets successfully routed. > Dropping via at (2272.50, 3587.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (2272.50, 3572.50) mil > Dropping via at (2272.50, 3587.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (2272.50, 3572.50) mil > Dropping via at (2272.50, 3587.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (2272.50, 3572.50) mil > Dropping via at (2272.50, 3587.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (2272.50, 3572.50) mil > Dropping via at (4202.50, 5936.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (4202.50, 5951.50) mil > Dropping via at (4202.50, 5936.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (4202.50, 5951.50) mil > Dropping via at (4202.50, 5936.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (4202.50, 5951.50) mil > Dropping via at (4202.50, 5936.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (4202.50, 5951.50) mil > Dropping via at (5757.50, 2996.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (5757.50, 3011.50) mil > Dropping via at (5757.50, 2996.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (5757.50, 3011.50) mil > Dropping via at (5757.50, 2996.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (5757.50, 3011.50) mil > Dropping via at (5757.50, 2996.50) mil because it's hole would overlap with the via at (5757.50, 3011.50) mil > Total added wire length = 41.38553 m, 2476 vias added > Congratulations!! > The layout is complete and has no shorted nets. > > Are these "dropping via" messages something I need to be concerned about? Missing vias would be bad. I couldn't find anything in the manual about this. > > Thanks > > Cam Farnell