X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:date:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=lAZHRm2kWSeAjJ8DexUFMEML7gx3QBJ0sOOrRZSCzlk=; b=vLhNxNDGKM4HZZc9j5mes/wAZ+xXHOzAq2r4wumBRxtbcMW6334LVo++4MfgOi0dXL 3MUe87fPRVI8undLbN+pKFsQNnJXC0KaCzq94rIP5xG5X1FJLH0bDZDm4hoGsNsQsjCL FnpnaZ1iUhwTCcbaJGyNv2CErUfZc2jBHSRIjL6hx3AgYbVu4SNKErvlq/r2U/ugaeXL svB4Ei76w3tR+jtqBJDLF7yhgQljTwXRiCir8gMUlYaa7giXtKoiFOoSy7l0xiiJGn3H W0wcc29ii+wi7BzPH9rMrciKptoDqQftzvynpnr7brgm/aIeNq93waieb5ZJEPC3eYT8 /wYQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:date:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=lAZHRm2kWSeAjJ8DexUFMEML7gx3QBJ0sOOrRZSCzlk=; b=CDF5kVizuVCFDEtJE4TcEOH4bapn5sP4EzST8OFjlMG+H4gI3gIQXZyb2yP80XFT21 U1QYd5sF7bSDxVphL+C0mma7cnILW9xU7xGv0hWMs50FJt/hRVX3R7oPkhu8yXZuJBVe bNhbFJ8TAcQN6qa21Bq3poHHmVV5D0njqc+ramn2HSvWA1RitsxoT6EM1WaTKVWxcP2O f9h9HN1DV+AUsKNAF1EJHWeA7VzZvJo1zrozLtW41CGkb71FSV/tXR1RtyL3+TyfrODK GjA8kyPseq5G6qzLBRey0D7N+Sc6kQr352vBgKqUrkHNnKlfF9GorZ2EUEuuVXlHMKa7 kj1g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530RcgTmf/I30Mv4372nC8pAV7yWd22IAeZAmKcjRX7wdZqVu/Lv TEVVsg1bwKsYmvY+sML+chpp85fUnI4= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJy9t9jmvdCbcZhybCaoLGJ27qUVjQuwe5Dw8vbofKFW1TEZjKbEWbznGdnTO4g2uAtx4QoCvg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3497:: with SMTP id v23mr2153234lfr.110.1614354371349; Fri, 26 Feb 2021 07:46:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" X-Google-Original-From: Vladimir Zhbanov Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 18:46:09 +0300 To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Subject: Re: [geda-help] How to get element outline off-board Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com References: <4b1d3d85-7f93-9eac-c4eb-9f84f2a47e61 AT bitflipper DOT ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk Hi Torben, On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 09:46:25PM +0100, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > I have not been using the design software for some time. I have used gEDA > and lately Lepton/Lepton-cli(?). Now I am confused - should I use gEDA or > Lepton/Lepton-cli? I am using Ubuntu and Ubuntu has installed gEDA PCB. > Can anyone help? You can use either or both simultaneously :-) gEDA PCB (or just 'pcb') is a PCB layout program and is supported by both geda-gaf and lepton-eda since they are growing from the same stem. Lepton is a fork of geda-gaf back from late 2016. The projects' leaders just have different views on how to proceed. I'm the current maintainer of Lepton, ask me anything about it, even privately, if you wish (before, I maintained geda-gaf and released its version 1.9.2). 'lepton-cli' is just Lepton's command line utility, the same as 'gaf' in 'geda-gaf'. Both projects support the same old gEDA schematic/symbol file format. There are several differencies between the projects since they are evolving separately now. Again, please ask about any inconsistences if you feel like. HTH -- Vladimir