Thank you for your detailed information. I appreciate your = efforts as well as many others

who have contributed = to the body of gEDA tools. My workplace has prospered, I=E2=80=99ve made = money,

and learned a bunch because of the time = spent and work done by many people. Thanks

to = all of you.

Sorry if I caused a =E2=80=9Cstink-fest" by asking a = question. I=E2=80=99ve been a member of this list for = many

years and have seen too many acrimonious = exchanges. Opinions and historical views differ.

Its = OK. We are all human, flawed and need to extend grace to each = other.

Have a great = week.

Take= care,

Roger Traylor

On Sep = 3, 2020, at 1:02 PM, Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com) = [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

On = Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:08:43PM -0700, Roger Traylor (traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
Vladimir,
Pardon me for being = uninformed, but I=E2=80=99ve looked around and have yet to figure out
exactly what the difference/motivation was for the lepton = fork. I=E2=80=99m not being
critical, but trying to = understand it. I may adopt it in the future if I knew what
the benefits were.
Thanks,
Roger = Traylor

Roger,
The history is long and it will jugde whose approach is = better.

My main motivation was to keep the = project alive. The second one
was developing using = Scheme as its main high-level language. The
third = one was restricting of introducing of third party code
written in whichever language in order to maintain code = base
maintainable given what man-power we had all the time = :-)

A bit of history:

While I tried to keep geda-gaf alive (I started working on = it
since about 2009) by working on and maintaining its C = and Guile
base, Roland decided (in my view) to transform = geda-gaf into his
xi/xorn by replacing some pieces of C = and Guile project code with
his new Python code. = Some loud gEDA users had supported him in
that, and, = since there was no explicit and apparent (declared)
leader = (such a "democracy", being "anarchy" in essence), we've
decided (several people, mostly real geda-gaf developers,
supported me) to make a fork. Now, you can judge = yourself which
approach is better: Lepton has no issues = with obsolete Guile and
Python versions and is supported = by many new distribution
versions. OTOH, as I was = concerned, we've lost a substantial
amount of our user = base and support due to such an unfair
renaming/hijacking = (IMO, xorn could live as a separate project,
though = without geda-gaf it could die, which I consider an only
reason why Roland strived to include it in geda-gaf).

I can err, as all people :-) Hope no = flame war will follow :-/

--
= Vladimir

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