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On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:08:43PM -0700, Roger Traylor (traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
> Vladimir,
> Pardon me for being uninformed, but I’ve looked around and have yet to figure out
> exactly what the difference/motivation was for the lepton fork.  I’m not being
> critical, but trying to understand it. I may adopt it in the future if I knew what
> the benefits were.
> Thanks,
> Roger Traylor

Roger,

The history is long and it will jugde whose approach is better.

My main motivation was to keep the project alive.  The second one
was developing using Scheme as its main high-level language.  The
third one was restricting of introducing of third party code
written in whichever language in order to maintain code base
maintainable given what man-power we had all the time :-)

A bit of history:

While I tried to keep geda-gaf alive (I started working on it
since about 2009) by working on and maintaining its C and Guile
base, Roland decided (in my view) to transform geda-gaf into his
xi/xorn by replacing some pieces of C and Guile project code with
his new Python code.  Some loud gEDA users had supported him in
that, and, since there was no explicit and apparent (declared)
leader (such a "democracy", being "anarchy" in essence), we've
decided (several people, mostly real geda-gaf developers,
supported me) to make a fork.  Now, you can judge yourself which
approach is better: Lepton has no issues with obsolete Guile and
Python versions and is supported by many new distribution
versions.  OTOH, as I was concerned, we've lost a substantial
amount of our user base and support due to such an unfair
renaming/hijacking (IMO, xorn could live as a separate project,
though without geda-gaf it could die, which I consider an only
reason why Roland strived to include it in geda-gaf).

I can err, as all people :-)  Hope no flame war will follow :-/

-- 
  Vladimir

(λ)επτόν EDA — https://github.com/lepton-eda