X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at smtp-vp03.sig.oregonstate.edu From: "Roger Traylor (traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_0EFECED5-88B0-4137-A24E-8CB14DFC5466" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.6\)) Subject: Re: [geda-help] Linux Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:58:17 -0700 References: <20200829221451 DOT GA2565 AT newvzh DOT lokolhoz> <664de6c2-ad96-8298-1b64-ad550acfca64 AT k4gvo DOT com> <20200901193434 DOT GB19839 AT newvzh DOT lokolhoz> <20200902141116 DOT GA2911 AT newvzh DOT lokolhoz> <20200902165424 DOT GB2911 AT newvzh DOT lokolhoz> <333FD0E9-238C-445F-AEE4-850B0EA19A88 AT ece DOT orst DOT edu> <2A687A4D-3219-431E-8866-2D11C2418C81 AT noqsi DOT com> To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com In-Reply-To: <2A687A4D-3219-431E-8866-2D11C2418C81@noqsi.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.6) Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk --Apple-Mail=_0EFECED5-88B0-4137-A24E-8CB14DFC5466 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Thanks John! Roger > On Sep 2, 2020, at 1:19 PM, John Doty wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Roger Traylor (traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu = ) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com = ] > wrote: >>=20 >> Pardon me for being uninformed, but I=E2=80=99ve looked around and = have yet to figure out >> exactly what the difference/motivation was for the lepton fork. = I=E2=80=99m not being >> critical, but trying to understand it. I may adopt it in the future = if I knew what >> the benefits were. >=20 > Minor developer here, but mostly a user. I favor Lepton for continuing = with the original gEDA vision in two ways: >=20 > 1) It embraces and extends the Guile-based scripting that made gEDA so = amenable to automation. >=20 > 2) It=E2=80=99s agnostic about which layout program you use: it has no = favored layout component. >=20 > Roland has demonstrated that he can be hyper-productive with his = Xorn-based gEDA, but I found it incomprehensible. Guile is much easier = to understand. The layout people I work with all have different favorite = tools, so decoupling schematic entry and layout is very important to me. >=20 > John Doty Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd. > jpd AT noqsi DOT com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_0EFECED5-88B0-4137-A24E-8CB14DFC5466 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Thanks John!

Roger

On Sep = 2, 2020, at 1:19 PM, John Doty <jpd AT noqsi DOT com> wrote:

On Sep 2, 2020, at 3:08 PM, Roger Traylor (traylor AT engr DOT orst DOT edu) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

Pardon me for being uninformed, = but I=E2=80=99ve looked around and have yet to figure out
exactly what the difference/motivation was for = the lepton fork. I=E2=80=99m not being
critical, but trying to understand it. I may = adopt it in the future if I knew what
the benefits = were.

Minor = developer here, but mostly a user. I favor Lepton for continuing with = the original gEDA vision in two ways:

1) It embraces and extends the = Guile-based scripting that made gEDA so amenable to = automation.

2) = It=E2=80=99s agnostic about which layout program you use: it has no = favored layout component.

Roland has demonstrated that he can be hyper-productive with = his Xorn-based gEDA, but I found it incomprehensible. Guile is much = easier to understand. The layout people I work with all have different = favorite tools, so decoupling schematic entry and layout is very = important to me.

John Doty Noqsi = Aerospace, Ltd.
jpd AT noqsi DOT com

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