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Males (jlmales AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Subject: [geda-help] Question: New User - Can One Create a Part with Via connected with Trace to Pad? Message-Id: <20191028213830.2e35bc6023c2d8a37696bcd5@gmail.com> Organization: Toronto, Ontario X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.2) Disposition-Notification-To: jlmales AT gmail DOT com X-Compose-Start-Epoch: `date +%s` Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I have a part with a pair of square solder pads that is like an oversized SMD pad. I have been trying a number of different ways to add to the part a Via that has a connecting trace between the Via and one of the two square pads as a part. I have looked ad different parts to see if I can figure out how to accomplish this as well as searching the internet. After a few days of trying I am stumped. The reason for such a part is to enable it to be easy to create PCB variations not only with ease and quickly, but accurately. This PCB has no components which I suspect is why what I am trying to accomplish is a challenge. I have a part for the air flow holes and a part for the screw mounting holes. First question is creating a part with a Via, and connecting trace to a pad is possible? Second question is would I be safe to assume if the first question is possible it means I could create a trace connecting a copper area to a pad that doe not need a Via? The first question is so I can connect the bottom copper area to top side of PCB to avoid the trace being on bottom side of PCB that will be mounted to metal support. There is enough space between the edge of copper area and the metal support to place a via at the edge of the copper area to enable the connecting trace to be on the top side of PCB so the trace makes no contact with metal. John L. Males Toronto, Ontario Canada 28 October 2019 17:38 -0400 EDT ================================================================ 2019-10-28 21:14:59+0000-UTC Time: 1572297299 PC/System time 28 Oct 21:14:59 ntpdate[69353]: ntpdate 4.2.8p12-a (1) 28 Oct 21:15:14 ntpdate[69765]: step time server 24.72.10.235 offset -0.000414 sec FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE FreeBSD 11.3-STABLE #0 r349903: Thu Jul 11 16:13:47 UTC 2019 root AT releng2 DOT nyi DOT freebsd DOT org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC (Work in progress alternative to Linux Kernel of its own right, Debian, and other Linux based Kernel distributions determined.) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2367M CPU @ 1.40GHz (1396.86-MHz K8-class CPU) dev.cpu.0.temperature: 71.0C dev.cpu.1.temperature: 71.0C dev.cpu.2.temperature: 68.0C dev.cpu.3.temperature: 68.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 71.1C vmstat -s: 996258111 cpu context switches 40196024 device interrupts 5816481 software interrupts 130595555 traps 2646807259 system calls 27 kernel threads created 7405 fork() calls 5073 vfork() calls 6 rfork() calls 56829 swap pager pageins 312859 swap pager pages paged in 89581 swap pager pageouts 773432 swap pager pages paged out 23647 vnode pager pageins 198004 vnode pager pages paged in 532 vnode pager pageouts 5885 vnode pager pages paged out 975 page daemon wakeups 236707644 pages examined by the page daemon 0 clean page reclamation shortfalls 8750087 pages reactivated by the page daemon 677677 copy-on-write faults 4592 copy-on-write optimized faults 95824702 zero fill pages zeroed 5910 zero fill pages prezeroed 58722 intransit blocking page faults 136661012 total VM faults taken 84488 page faults requiring I/O 0 pages affected by kernel thread creation 497747 pages affected by fork() 179410 pages affected by vfork() 248 pages affected by rfork() 135189517 pages freed 27702059 pages freed by daemon 35161587 pages freed by exiting processes 679964 pages active 568412 pages inactive 262035 pages in the laundry queue 427984 pages wired down 69336 pages free 4096 bytes per page 59735275 total name lookups cache hits (87% pos + 2% neg) system 0% per-directory deletions 0%, falsehits 0%, toolong 0% Boot time : 1572102092 procs memory page disks faults cpu0 cpu1 cpu2 cpu3 r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id us sy id us sy id us sy id 0 0 0 45560424 277284 700 45 0 0 692 1212 0 0 206 13558 5103 11 6 84 12 3 85 12 3 85 12 3 85 memory info: real memory = 8589934592 (8192 MB) avail memory = 8166465536 (7788 MB) last pid: 72258; load averages: 0.71, 0.75, 0.84 up 2+06:13:43 21:15:15 74 processes: 1 running, 73 sleeping Mem: 2657M Active, 2220M Inact, 1024M Laundry, 1672M Wired, 773M Buf, 270M Free Swap: 48G Total, 2144M Used, 46G Free, 4% Inuse hw.physmem: 8463925248 hw.usermem: 6710726656 hw.realmem: 8589934592 total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 8030732 5479880 2550852 0 0 0 Swap: 50331644 2195396 48136248 swapinfo: Device 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity /dev/ada0s1b 50331644 2195396 48136248 4% vmstat: procs memory page disks faults cpu r b w avm fre flt re pi po fr sr ad0 pa0 in sy cs us sy id 1 0 0 45560424 277236 700 45 0 0 692 1212 0 0 206 13558 5103 11 4 85 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQxRId2q5JPHFiozTr5X9dS0HpoEAUCXbdf1gAKCRD5X9dS0Hpo ENWcAJ9dTgTmu5UUn3OtHDMtKROEAWxgRQCgusaim+AIoJ0+gUk9AQ4zhjvsW64= =g0nP -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----