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Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Message-ID: <494dd7d7-4d87-cd51-8a2f-e411e4097c76@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 07:14:32 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0680442532543B1F09C09792" Content-Language: en-US Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Errors-To: nobody AT delorie DOT com X-Mailing-List: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Unsubscribes-To: listserv AT delorie DOT com Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0680442532543B1F09C09792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Torben: I am not seeing the issue.?? Probably because I did not receive Saturday's message with the attachment. At this point I cannot tell if you are installing from your distro's repositories or cloning the github for local compiling. If compiling locally, there are quite a number of -devel files that must be installed from your distro's repository before you can start the build process. Hope this helps On 8/5/19 5:43 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Hi Erich and Glen, > > I have run the geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial again and I get the same result. > I have installed gtk2.0 (sudo apt-get install gtk2.0) and have packages: > > ii ??gtk-update-ico 3.22.30-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??icon theme caching utility > ii ??gtk2-engines-m 0.98.2-2ubun amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??cairo-based gtk+-2.0 > theme engine > ii ??gtk2-engines-p 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??pixbuf-based theme for > GTK+ 2.x > ii ??gtk2.0-example 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??example files for GTK+ 2.0 > > and: > > ii ??pcb ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board > (pcb) desig > ii ??pcb-common ?? ?? 1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board > (pcb) desig > ii ??pcb-gtk ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board > (pcb) desig > ii ??pcb-lesstif ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board > (pcb) desig > > The board.pcb file starts: > > torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject1$ cat board.pcb > # release: pcb 1.99x > # To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the cvs source date) must be > >= the file version > FileVersion[20070407] > PCB["" 600000 500000] > Grid[10000.000000 0 0 0] > Cursor[0 0 0.000000] > PolyArea[200000000.000000] > Thermal[0.500000] > DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000] > Flags("nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin") > Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8") > Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"] > Element(0x00 "TO92" "Q201" "2N3904" 0 0 0 100 0x00) > ( > Pin(250 200 72 42 "1" 0x101) > . > . > . > > Can you see anything wrong? > It's a real mystery. > best regards > torben > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Torben Friis > wrote: > > Hi Erich and Glen, > I have started from scratch (uninstalling - installing gEDA,?? > restarting the computer.) without using sudo and I have installed > gtk (sudo apt install gtk+3.0) and the result is shown in the > attached screen dump. > Same result, but there is something about gtk that I may have > misunderstood. > best regards > torben > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:07 AM Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com > ) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com > ] > wrote: > > P.S. > You may also want to do a *ls -l *(list -long) to see how many > files still belong to you and how many belong to root. > > You may want to *sudo chown* to move the files back to the > correct owner. > > On my computer there is a difference between the user default > permissions and root's default permissions.?? You may want to > correct the permissions with *sudo chmod* > > Regards. > > > On 8/1/19 4:34 PM, Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com > ) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com > ] wrote: >> >> Torben: >> >> You should not have to use /*sudo*/ /*(SuperUser DO) */as >> this elevates you from your user level (torben) to root user. >> >> This may be causing issues where you are saving files as user >> /*torben*/, but when you become root, root's directory may be >> checked for the file. >> >> sudo is a dangerous tool and is meant to be used for specific >> uses such as installing software.?? Using it excessively can >> cause a typo to have catastrophic consequences.?? When your >> computer is configured correctly you should be able to run >> /*gschem*/ or /*pcb*/ (etc.) with your own user (torben) >> level privileges. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> On 7/30/19 7:11 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com >> ) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com >> ] wrote: >>> Hi, >>> Is Wilson's tutorial up-to-date? I run: >>> >>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo gsch2pcb >>> project >>> >>> with 2 resistors and get: >>> ---------------------------------- >>> Done processing.?? Work performed: >>> 2 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.pcb. >>> >>> Next step: >>> 1.?? Run pcb on your file board.pcb. >>> ?? ?? You will find all your footprints in a bundle ready >>> for you to place >>> ?? ?? or disperse with "Select -> Disperse all elements" in PCB. >>> >>> 2.?? From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and >>> select >>> ?? ?? board.net to load the netlist. >>> >>> 3.?? From within PCB, enter >>> >>> ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??:ExecuteFile(board.cmd) >>> >>> ?? ?? to propagate the pin names of all footprints to the >>> layout. >>> >>> I then run: >>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo pcb >>> board.pcb >>> >>> and get: >>> File 'board.pcb' has no font information, using default font >>> ?? >>> I then get the rather empty looking screen shown attached. >>> >>> I can disperse the components and run the netlist, but when >>> I run >>> >>> sudo :ExecuteFile(board.cmd) (or :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)) >>> ??nothing happens >>> >>> Incidentally, when I run: >>> >>> sudo gschem one.sch >>> >>> the curser moves to the next line. It looks as if some input >>> is expected. What? >>> >>> >>> Can anyone help? >>> best regards >>> torben >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:04 PM Torben Friis >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi , >>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot >>> find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it >>> in two places, but neither one appeared to provide it. >>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it? >>> torben >>> --------------0680442532543B1F09C09792 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Torben:

I am not seeing the issue.?? Probably because I did not receive Saturday's message with the attachment.

At this point I cannot tell if you are installing from your distro's repositories or cloning the github for local compiling.

If compiling locally, there are quite a number of -devel files that must be installed from your distro's repository before you can start the build process.

Hope this helps

On 8/5/19 5:43 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
Hi Erich and Glen,

I have run the geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial again and I get the same result.
I have installed gtk2.0 (sudo apt-get install gtk2.0) and have packages:

ii ??gtk-update-ico 3.22.30-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??icon theme caching utility
ii ??gtk2-engines-m 0.98.2-2ubun amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??cairo-based gtk+-2.0 theme engine
ii ??gtk2-engines-p 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??pixbuf-based theme for GTK+ 2.x
ii ??gtk2.0-example 2.24.32-1ubu amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??example files for GTK+ 2.0

and:

ii ??pcb ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board (pcb) desig
ii ??pcb-common ?? ?? 1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??all ?? ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board (pcb) desig
ii ??pcb-gtk ?? ?? ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board (pcb) desig
ii ??pcb-lesstif ?? ??1:4.0.2-4 ?? ??amd64 ?? ?? ?? ??printed circuit board (pcb) desig

The board.pcb file starts:

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject1$ cat board.pcb
# release: pcb 1.99x
# To read pcb files, the pcb version (or the cvs source date) must be >= the file version
FileVersion[20070407]
PCB["" 600000 500000]
Grid[10000.000000 0 0 0]
Cursor[0 0 0.000000]
PolyArea[200000000.000000]
Thermal[0.500000]
DRC[1000 1000 1000 1000 1500 1000]
Flags("nameonpcb,uniquename,clearnew,snappin")
Groups("1,c:2:3:4:5:6,s:7:8")
Styles["Signal,1000,3600,2000,1000:Power,2500,6000,3500,1000:Fat,4000,6000,3500,1000:Skinny,600,2402,1181,600"]
Element(0x00 "TO92" "Q201" "2N3904" 0 0 0 100 0x00)
(
Pin(250 200 72 42 "1" 0x101)
.
.
.

Can you see anything wrong?
It's a real mystery.
best regards
torben

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 4:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi Erich and Glen,
I have started from scratch (uninstalling - installing gEDA,?? restarting the computer.) without using sudo and I have installed gtk (sudo apt install gtk+3.0) and the result is shown in the attached screen dump.
Same result, but there is something about gtk that I may have misunderstood.
best regards
torben

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:07 AM Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

P.S.
You may also want to do a ls -l (list -long) to see how many files still belong to you and how many belong to root.

You may want to sudo chown to move the files back to the correct owner.

On my computer there is a difference between the user default permissions and root's default permissions.?? You may want to correct the permissions with sudo chmod

Regards.


On 8/1/19 4:34 PM, Glen W. Ruch (gw DOT ruch AT yahoo DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:

Torben:

You should not have to use sudo (SuperUser DO) as this elevates you from your user level (torben) to root user.

This may be causing issues where you are saving files as user torben, but when you become root, root's directory may be checked for the file.

sudo is a dangerous tool and is meant to be used for specific uses such as installing software.?? Using it excessively can cause a typo to have catastrophic consequences.?? When your computer is configured correctly you should be able to run gschem or pcb (etc.) with your own user (torben) level privileges.

Hope this helps.

On 7/30/19 7:11 AM, Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
Hi,
Is Wilson's tutorial up-to-date? I run:

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo gsch2pcb project

with 2 resistors and get:
----------------------------------
Done processing.?? Work performed:
2 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.pcb.

Next step:
1.?? Run pcb on your file board.pcb.
?? ?? You will find all your footprints in a bundle ready for you to place
?? ?? or disperse with "Select -> Disperse all elements" in PCB.

2.?? From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and select
?? ?? board.net to load the netlist.

3.?? From within PCB, enter

?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??:ExecuteFile(board.cmd)

?? ?? to propagate the pin names of all footprints to the layout.

I then run:
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~/gaf/myproject3$ sudo pcb board.pcb

and get:
File 'board.pcb' has no font information, using default font
??
I then get the rather empty looking screen shown attached.

I can disperse the components and run the netlist, but when I run

sudo :ExecuteFile(board.cmd) (or :ExecuteFile(board.cmd))
??nothing happens

Incidentally, when I run:

sudo gschem one.sch

the curser moves to the next line. It looks as if some input is expected. What?


Can anyone help?
best regards
torben


On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:04 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi ,
I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but neither one appeared to provide it.
Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
torben
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