X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=EF9I8zMjqTkki29BML3WfHdcRPgmn39WZEoqY8WrKDM=; b=oC9tuMAzdTm/i6yDiORmEdZ1ghGpvUR06bN4yUqqDRuBF2HtlAtD/lkXZHa3CsHLJd Ogz0+ofoANDdyOsVWxJ9CCDBX/Rr48dy+qavoxZToKr+DBZZG/DkBPdvbRr/KeERnE2T bRVjHuI95P/qF+9R7TctdGFB6XHIZmB/g7cNSnofb6qge1gCxKi9jjTmR63oKOMq7KK/ EsA7m8BXR2r4Rn/adOijmN5gY9OfFxx9m1rf1zLEdN95u1x24/BIALRdI71XAZA93Zbm 6P/RkzvpdeyellQrRpIV0p9rNJjmtZ4oGdaUZiI+ghjfcAu7pJmjOXErDVM7lrrnAIGm xBCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=EF9I8zMjqTkki29BML3WfHdcRPgmn39WZEoqY8WrKDM=; b=jKIQyDK8cLdRKWOSuqlddG3jJeYBViRDA5amBY3asL4Ri7g5iEhsB0xGAkqu0CRcU2 aq5t2QkFuPLsDxiyvcgl5Sbjm9UFLonAbtcSyT1OSJOnh5ltkNPamTAzPWQ+FUUwzajO KW5v/1qdvKsosr332N9NL130J4Moxio3XT1N4PSambjvCib0oWcI+RHOImGlEx4pdmbL X1gqfuINxKdwmexWJITdKhB0G5SRdfReM6NRoNRquLjeX8bD7J/HFNz+MwfT0ipMIF6O 6qoOjgB3eF+GoqvALDh4wHmqhEL7KiUcSQhP3nitLahOOn6GKWeofqvAH34ITGVSPXUB o55g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWEdPweHY41Lg6rFcqfmbqE1tBXm2acFzk8uvfftQDWEw+T+acQ B1kSZDxkyEqv4YIyLm1IOqZuFKuBVj0GNfTFkJRqwkyD X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqyDNEEyd5vPY2l0LjI9MnNUlpIPLhQ4QZq6Jp9UFObD3VhQilHaYVDFYE29JuDPsocw8eUsiz1rSFR2cTaCC8k= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:4e10:: with SMTP id c16mr6838232iob.18.1554422179242; Thu, 04 Apr 2019 16:56:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Graham S (graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 00:56:07 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-help] PCB and resizing via holes? To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d328f40585bd1d97" Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com --000000000000d328f40585bd1d97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Chad OK - my attempt did not work. The DBUS messaging daemon clearly is installed OK. Getting PCB installed needs to get past the configure script to progress further. Installing Linux Mint 19.1 cannot happen immediately until I get another hard drive. For me, I have to get a new distro fully up and working before I abandon the current one, and there is quite a lot to transfer and set up. At least for the immediate need, I can keep (sort of) using the 2014 version of PCB. Regards Graham On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 at 00:40, Graham S wrote: > I downloaded the latest version using .. > git clone git://git.geda-project.org/pcb.git > > All seemed to go OK, and all the required tools (gcc, automake,etc) are > all present. > The ,/autogen.sh ran OK and made the configure file. > Then I encountered the first stumble while running ,/configure. > It is about DBUS. > ----------------------------------- > checking for whether to use DBUS... yes > checking for DBUS... no > configure: error: Cannot find dbus-1 >= 0.61, install it and rerun > ./configure > Please review the following errors: > No package 'dbus-1' found > ------------------------------------ > I this Linux Mint, it uses the Ubuntu (Xenial). > The package is called "dbus", not "dbus-1" although there are references > to "dbus-1-debug" and dbus-1-doc". > > I checked .. > -------------------------------------- > graham # apt-get install dbus > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > dbus is already the newest version (1.10.6-1ubuntu3.3). > ---------------------------------------- > So we do have DBUS installed OK - it came with the distro automatically > installed. > Unfortunately, configure looks for dbus-1. > > I an a application user, not a programmer. > I would not usually meddle with automatically generated scripts, but might > it be something as easy as replacing all references "dbus-1" with "dbus" in > the configure script? > > Maybe I will try it anyway. It might make a mess, but I can start over if > it does. > Regards > Graham > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:58, Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> Hi Graham- >> This is a known bug: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/1496603 >> >> It has to do with how window managers intercept the "Alt" key. Likely >> when you press "Alt" and click, you'll drag around the entire window. The >> window manager is intercepting the keystrokes and acting instead of passing >> the input along to pcb. It's possible that the selection of this key >> combination actually predated that window manager behavior. >> >> We're planning to fix it in the next release, which I imagine will drop >> in the next couple of months. >> >> The version you're using is obviously 5 years old, and many improvements >> have been made in that time. I would strongly recommend updating to the >> latest release if possible. If your distribution doesn't include newer >> versions, you can always build and install pcb from source. I'd be happy to >> help you with that if you need. >> >> Thanks, >> --Chad >> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM Graham S (graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com) [via >> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >> >>> Thank you. This does work! >>> I have to ask, when did it change, and, if you know, then why? >>> The motivation for assigning part of a logical key binding set to a menu >>> function that is available in the toolbar anyway seems unclear. >>> >>> Do I need to use a more up-to-date version? >>> For me to get a more recent version from the repository, I would have to >>> install Linux Mint 19.1, or use some more deliberate method. >>> Anyway, my thanks for the prompt reply, and that it did work. >>> >>> My regards >>> Graham >>> >>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:08, DJ Delorie wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> You can select the via, and use the "command line": >>>> >>>> :ChangeDrillSize(Selected,=28mil) >>>> >>>> (i.e. press ":" and type "Change...", then ) >>>> >>>> You can also override the menu bar shortcuts by finding gpcb-menu.res >>>> (you might need to build pcb from sources to get a copy), editing it, >>>> and putting it in ~/.pcb/ >>>> >>> --000000000000d328f40585bd1d97 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Chad
OK - my attempt did not wo= rk.
The DBUS messaging daemon clearly is installed OK.

Getting PCB installed needs to get past the configure script to prog= ress further.
Installing Linux Mint 19.1 cannot happen immedi= ately until I get another hard drive.
For me, I have to get a= new distro fully up and working before I abandon the current one, and ther= e is quite a lot to transfer and set up.
At least for the imm= ediate need, I can keep (sort of) using the 2014 version of PCB.
<= div>
Regards
Graham


On Fri, 5 Apr = 2019 at 00:40, Graham S <graha= m DOT seale AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
<= div>
I downloaded=C2=A0 the latest version using ..
git clone g= it://git.= geda-project.org/pcb.git

All seemed to go OK, and all the = required tools (gcc, automake,etc) are all present.
The ,/aut= ogen.sh ran OK and made the configure file.
Then I encountered the= first stumble while running ,/configure.
=C2=A0It is about DBUS.
---= --------------------------------
checking for whether to use DBUS... yes=
checking for DBUS... no
configure: error: Cannot find dbus-1 >=3D= 0.61, install it and rerun ./configure
Please review the following erro= rs:
No package 'dbus-1' found
-------------------------------= -----
I this Linux Mint, it uses the Ubuntu (Xenial).
The= package is called "dbus", not "dbus-1" although there = are references to "dbus-1-debug" and dbus-1-doc".

I checked ..
--------------------------------------
graham # apt-g= et install dbus
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tre= e=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Reading state information... Done=
dbus is already the newest version (1.10.6-1ubuntu3.3).
------------= ----------------------------
So we do have DBUS installed OK - it = came with the distro automatically installed.
Unfortunately, confi= gure looks for dbus-1.

I an a application user, not a programm= er.
I would not usually meddle with automatically generated scripts, but= might it be something as easy as replacing all references "dbus-1&quo= t; with "dbus" in the configure script?

Maybe I will= try it anyway. It might make a mess, but I can start over if it does.
<= /div>Regards
Graham



<= br>




=

Hi Graham-
This is a known bug:

It has to do wit= h how window managers intercept the "Alt" key. Likely when you pr= ess "Alt" and click, you'll drag around the entire window. Th= e window manager is intercepting the keystrokes and acting instead of passi= ng the input along to pcb. It's possible that the selection of this key= combination actually predated that window manager behavior.

We're planning to fix it in the next release= , which I imagine will drop in the next couple of months.

The version you're using is obviously 5 years old, and many imp= rovements have been made in that time. I would strongly recommend updating = to the latest release if possible. If your distribution doesn't include= newer versions, you can always build and install pcb from source. I'd = be happy to help you with that if you need.

T= hanks,
--Chad

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM Graham S (<= a href=3D"mailto:graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">graham DOT seale AT gma= il.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
<= div>Thank you. This does work!
I have to ask, when did it change, = and, if you know, then why?
The motivation for assigning part= of a logical key binding set to a menu function that is available in the t= oolbar anyway seems unclear.

Do I need to use a more up-t= o-date version?
For me to get a more recent version from the repos= itory, I would have to install Linux Mint 19.1, or use some more deliberate= method.
Anyway, my thanks for the prompt reply, and that it did work.
My regards
Graham

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:08= , DJ Delorie <dj AT del= orie.com> wrote:

You can select the via, and use the "command line":

:ChangeDrillSize(Selected,=3D28mil)

(i.e. press ":" and type "Change...", then <ENTER>= ;)

You can also override the menu bar shortcuts by finding gpcb-menu.res
(you might need to build pcb from sources to get a copy), editing it,
and putting it in ~/.pcb/
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