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From: "Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 16:54:06 -0400
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Subject: Re: [geda-help] PCB and resizing via holes?
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Hi Graham-
This is a known bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/1496603

It has to do with how window managers intercept the "Alt" key. Likely when
you press "Alt" and click, you'll drag around the entire window. The window
manager is intercepting the keystrokes and acting instead of passing the
input along to pcb. It's possible that the selection of this key
combination actually predated that window manager behavior.

We're planning to fix it in the next release, which I imagine will drop in
the next couple of months.

The version you're using is obviously 5 years old, and many improvements
have been made in that time. I would strongly recommend updating to the
latest release if possible. If your distribution doesn't include newer
versions, you can always build and install pcb from source. I'd be happy to
help you with that if you need.

Thanks,
--Chad

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 4:29 PM Graham S (graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Thank you. This does work!
> I have to ask, when did it change, and, if you know, then why?
> The motivation for assigning part of a logical key binding set to a menu
> function that is available in the toolbar anyway seems unclear.
>
> Do I need to use a more up-to-date version?
> For me to get a more recent version from the repository, I would have to
> install Linux Mint 19.1, or use some more deliberate method.
> Anyway, my thanks for the prompt reply, and that it did work.
>
> My regards
> Graham
>
> On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:08, DJ Delorie <dj AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>
>>
>> You can select the via, and use the "command line":
>>
>> :ChangeDrillSize(Selected,=28mil)
>>
>> (i.e. press ":" and type "Change...", then <ENTER>)
>>
>> You can also override the menu bar shortcuts by finding gpcb-menu.res
>> (you might need to build pcb from sources to get a copy), editing it,
>> and putting it in ~/.pcb/
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Graham-</div><div>This is a known bug:<br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/1496603">http=
s://bugs.launchpad.net/pcb/+bug/1496603</a></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div=
><div>It has to do with how window managers intercept the &quot;Alt&quot; k=
ey. Likely when you press &quot;Alt&quot; and click, you&#39;ll drag around=
 the entire window. The window manager is intercepting the keystrokes and a=
cting instead of passing the input along to pcb. It&#39;s possible that the=
 selection of this key combination actually predated that window manager be=
havior.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div>We&#39;re planning to fix =
it in the next release, which I imagine will drop in the next couple of mon=
ths.</div><div><br></div><div>The version you&#39;re using is obviously 5 y=
ears old, and many improvements have been made in that time. I would strong=
ly recommend updating to the latest release if possible. If your distributi=
on doesn&#39;t include newer versions, you can always build and install pcb=
 from source. I&#39;d be happy to help you with that if you need. <br></div=
><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>--Chad<br></div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 =
at 4:29 PM Graham S (<a href=3D"mailto:graham DOT seale AT gmail DOT com">graham.seale=
@gmail.com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT del=
orie.com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">geda-help AT delori=
e.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Thank you. This does work!<b=
r></div>I have to ask, when did it change, and, if you know, then why?<br><=
/div><div>The motivation for assigning part of a logical key binding set to=
 a menu function that is available in the toolbar anyway seems unclear.<br>=
</div><div><br>Do I need to use a more up-to-date version?<br></div>For me =
to get a more recent version from the repository, I would have to install L=
inux Mint 19.1, or use some more deliberate method.<br>Anyway, my thanks fo=
r the prompt reply, and that it did work.<br><br></div></div>My regards<br>=
</div>Graham<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 21:08, DJ Delorie &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:dj AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">dj AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border=
-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
You can select the via, and use the &quot;command line&quot;:<br>
<br>
:ChangeDrillSize(Selected,=3D28mil)<br>
<br>
(i.e. press &quot;:&quot; and type &quot;Change...&quot;, then &lt;ENTER&gt=
;)<br>
<br>
You can also override the menu bar shortcuts by finding gpcb-menu.res<br>
(you might need to build pcb from sources to get a copy), editing it,<br>
and putting it in ~/.pcb/<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>

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