X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=6xwf/Ol+DFmNXeBbsw/YHdZ2uLez6sDHWfdVP9SNUF8=; b=Tr5YoJ9H23uzA9uF0HW8ko59VXWVnGxNU7bTs9EQ8JFbq7/yxNNpZ4nDUuzjTpnb+S XrVe47DMF8SfCisL4bpmaNrxmA7Tkt3S85wPEErFNfoVyusRwCBXmUTwacY6HdpDpeSi dw9KT8Z2MdUtBp890ck0kpXjCly2RVh7Z/s+wFq1NXk4GgQfs4CTckDb2C+/0pS900YJ Q+ghTXI5F33bkGxmWhtyWLm8mxjJTzdQGCBWSJcdkC1/cVqnCuBVzb9toDLicX9k1f5I VyleWqPXKad1dhcJRlE326OfPaDxVoAsjUw4njr3aD+JhOxQZLudrqNB4Na/+Jt7ZpbR kc9A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=6xwf/Ol+DFmNXeBbsw/YHdZ2uLez6sDHWfdVP9SNUF8=; b=UalJLBdvav2zUdOGgd/KbhVDc5Mdrn7CV2QdtDnOvk7UBlE6+Sh0aJkG0rFmTKO+Sy IbgzRevUan0BYybi8HbCWh3I8pPR6+crVaAHcdWA3FGAuYthOBCVgq33muvF+n5q/lve Q7GArdq5KJ4rhaGw1fsBnvjddLt+eifXLbG/pQaMwdGvzOil8mGEHfnl+KBb0kFjZuwQ S/lNxjAVj7GvjV3FsejQIroDyC6kDglhGefv4phzVyrLBK6cAjDBVr2RSxhq1yWHckU6 jW0MMD8+gmM/icbFWkFK6LmqVIuEhqiwxgwltUzkQSch3UKCBGYJkMS3tE57//pSkGGN S0eg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVu3y7whJIwl74IPjggnux8IghloDU3moiyKtXQSWFXbHNs/GjU UqGE2AINkj+1luZSB5SLK54t+rC421G48zoSuHlLqtFZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqx7NS42WJC7+De6OatPd1DyJXQTBbb9O7gXzfbODtkWfz5y/njW4hOoTnl88HN4VwaslCXyeQsIQBpp0+6o7DA= X-Received: by 2002:a81:9a8d:: with SMTP id r135mr14251928ywg.188.1551711541111; Mon, 04 Mar 2019 06:59:01 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 15:58:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-help] Picaxe 14M2 To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000033af33058345ff00" Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com --00000000000033af33058345ff00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Erich, Thank you very much for your reply. I have the following 2 files for PICAXE-14M: /usr/share/gEDA/gafrc.d/geda-clib.scm /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe/PICAXE-14M.sym I also have a lot of files for DIP14.fp under: /usr/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib/geda/ /home/torben/www/user/mark_salyzyn/footprints/ /home/geda/www/user/mark_salyzyn/footprints/ My problem is to connect the .sym information with the .fp. F.ex. for the OPAMP in the tutorial I find in the Edit Attributes: device OPAMP symversion 0.1 refdes U101 value T=C3=86072 and in Select Component... under opamp-1.sym: description operational amplifier device OPAMP numslots 0 refdes U? symversion 0.1 but none of these connect me with a .fp file. Nevertheless, there is a connection, because I can do the gsch2pcb-pcb/board.pcb works. You see I still have problems with the file system. torben On Sat, Mar 2, 2019 at 1:24 AM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp > > Is an example of a 14 pin DIP footprint suitable for a through hole 14M > picaxe. > > Some eda tools like Eagle bundle the symbols and associated footprints in > libraries - so called heavy symbols - but gschem allows any suitable > footprint to be set as the desired physical pinout for a symbol in gschem= . > > The history of "M4" and "newlib" collections of footprints is well > described at > > http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:pcb_footprints > > tl;dr version: > You need a DIP14.fp footprint file available for laying out your schemati= c > in PCB, and probably have one already in your default installed libraries= . > > As far as the HC-12 footprint goes, I googled HC-12 footprint, and came > across a github repository with an eagle library for it at > > https://github.com/meendiz/hc-12_si4463 > > from which the raw XML library can be downloaded at: > > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/meendiz/hc-12_si4463/master/hc12_433mhz= .lbr > > which I then used with > > https://github.com/erichVK5/translate2geda > > to convert the eagle library into a gEDA PCB and gschem footprint and > symbol, respectively > > which I have put on > > > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/HC-12_FOOTPRINT_HC-= 12_FOOTPRINT.sym > > http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/footprints/HC-12_FOOTPRINT.= fp > > In general, a google search for a footprint or symbol for a particular > device should yield either a gschem/PCB file, or one that can be converte= d > easily. > > Regards, > > Erich. > > > > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 03:24 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-help AT delorie DOT com], wrote: > >> Hi Erich Heinzie >> I have found 3 files with records that end on .fp: >> >> /home/torben/www/user/ >> /home/geda/www/user >> /home/geda/www/footprints/newlib >> >> I have now integrated PICAXE-14.sym in the standard library that >> automatically comes up. >> The 3 files are a bit confusing. First they dont appear to be sorted all >> the way through? Next, can you tell me which of them is associated with = the >> standard library? >> I am sorry I am a bit confused. >> torben >> >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 11:10 AM Torben Friis wrote: >> >>> Hi Erich Heinzie, >>> Do I need a footprint file also for the Picaxe-14? >>> I have been looking for sym-files (and fp-files?) for: >>> - a 3-legged step-up power converter (from Canton-Power) >>> - a hc-12 transceiver (5 legs) >>> - SW-420 vibration tester (3 legs) >>> without finding it. Maybe I can use something else with the right numbe= r >>> of legs. >>> Does anybody have it? >>> torben >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM Torben Friis wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Erich Heinzie, >>>> It worked. >>>> Thank you. >>>> torben >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:31 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) >>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>> >>>>> you do not appear to have placed a symbol (.sym) file for the picaxe >>>>> in your picaxe directory, but you have some footprints (.fp) in there= . >>>>> >>>>> gschem does not do anything or know what to do with the footprints. >>>>> >>>>> the following link should provide you with a picaxe 14M symbol >>>>> "PICAXE-14M.sym" that you can put in the picaxe directory gschem look= s >>>>> in >>>>> >>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?= dl >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:45 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [vi= a >>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi Erich Heinzie, >>>>> > Sorry it took me a long time to answer - problems with a GSM module= . >>>>> > >>>>> > I have found a file: >>>>> > >>>>> > /usr/share/gEDA/gafrc.d/geda-clib.scm >>>>> > >>>>> > with the content (the next to last line is added by me): >>>>> > >>>>> > ("minicircuits" "Mini-Circuits") >>>>> > ("national" "National Semiconductor") >>>>> > ("philips" "Philips Electronics") >>>>> > ("picaxe" "Picaxe chips") >>>>> > ("st" "ST Microelectronics") >>>>> > >>>>> > and a file: >>>>> > >>>>> > torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/philips >>>>> > PCA82C250-1.sym PCF8563-1.sym >>>>> > torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe >>>>> > SIP3.fp SIP4.fp SO8W.fp >>>>> > >>>>> > which is reflected in the Gschem selection of component: >>>>> > >>>>> > > Philips electronics >>>>> > PCA82C250-1.sym >>>>> > PCF8563-1.sym >>>>> > Picaxe Chips >>>>> > >>>>> > However, the "Picaxe chips" does not appear in the same way as "> >>>>> Philips electronics" with the subordinate points "SIP3.fp SIP4.fp >>>>> SO8W.fp". If I click "Picaxe chips" I close the screen. Obviously it = does >>>>> not make contact with /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe, SIP3.fp SIP4.fp S= O8W.fp >>>>> > Can you explain the difference between philips and picaxe? >>>>> > torben >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gmail DOT com) >>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?= dl >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use >>>>> in the gschem schematic editor >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .f= p >>>>> file and the raw file can be downloaded from >>>>> >> >>>>> >> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl >>>>> >> >>>>> >> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your >>>>> schematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated director= ies in >>>>> their project directory for symbols and for footprints. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Regards, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Erich >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via >>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Hi, >>>>> >>> I found DIP14: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym >>>>> >>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda >>>>> >>>> >>> >>>>> >>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> It looks different from your file if I view it.. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I shoul= d >>>>> store)? >>>>> >>> torben >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker ( >>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] < >>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14" should wor= k >>>>> as the footprint. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>> --Chad >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) >>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi , >>>>> >>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot find it. >>>>> I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, but ne= ither >>>>> one appeared to provide it. >>>>> >>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it? >>>>> >>>>> torben >>>>> >>>>> --00000000000033af33058345ff00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Erich,
Thank you= very much for your reply.

I have the following 2 files for PICAXE-1= 4M:

/usr/share/gEDA/gafrc.d/geda-clib.scm
/usr/share/gEDA/sym/pic= axe/PICAXE-14M.sym

I also have a lot of files for DIP14.fp under:
/usr/share/pcb/pcblib-newlib/geda/
/home/torben/www/user/mark_salyz= yn/footprints/
/home/geda/www/user/mark_salyzyn/footprints/

My pr= oblem is to connect the .sym information with the .fp.

F.ex. for the= OPAMP in the tutorial I find in the Edit Attributes:

device OPAMPsymversion 0.1
refdes U101
value T=C3=86072

and in Select Co= mponent... under opamp-1.sym:

description operational amplifier
d= evice OPAMP
numslots 0
refdes U?
symversion 0.1

but none of= these connect me with a .fp file. Nevertheless, there is a connection, bec= ause I can do the gsch2pcb-pcb/board.pcb works.

You see I still hav= e problems with the file system.
torben


On Sat, Mar 2= , 2019 at 1:24 AM Erich Heinzle (a103= 9181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help= @delorie.com] <geda-help AT de= lorie.com> wrote:
http://www.gedasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp

Is an example of a 14 pin DIP footp= rint suitable for a through hole 14M picaxe.

Some eda tools like Eagle bundle the symbols and assoc= iated footprints in libraries - so called heavy symbols - but gschem allows= any suitable footprint to be set as the desired physical pinout for a symb= ol in gschem.

The histor= y of "M4" and "newlib" collections of footprints is wel= l described at


tl;dr version:
You need a DIP14.fp footp= rint file available for laying out your schematic in PCB, and probably have= one already in your default installed libraries.

As far as the HC-1= 2 footprint goes, I googled HC-12 footprint, and came across a github repos= itory with an eagle library for it at


from which the raw = XML library can be downloaded at:


<= div>https://github.com/erichVK5/translate2geda

t= o convert the eagle library into a gEDA PCB and gschem footprint and symbol= , respectively

which I have put on

<= /div>
http://www.gedasymbo= ls.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/HC-12_FOOTPRINT_HC-12_FOOTPRINT.sym


<= /div>
In general, a google search for a footprint or symbol for a parti= cular device should yield either a gschem/PCB file, or one that can be conv= erted easily.

Regards,


Hi Erich Heinzie,
Do I need a footprint file al= so for the Picaxe-14?
I have been looking for sym-f= iles (and fp-files?) for:
- a 3-legged step-up powe= r converter (from Canton-Power)
- a hc-12 transceiv= er (5 legs)
- SW-420 vibration tester (3 legs)
<= /div>
without finding it. Maybe I can use something else = with the right number of legs.
Does anybody ha= ve it?
torben


On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 2:26 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT c= om> wrote:
Hi Erich Heinzie,
It worked.
Thank you.
= torben

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 1:31 PM Erich Heinzle (a= 1039181 AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
you do not appear to have placed a symbol = (.sym) file for the picaxe
in your picaxe directory, but you have some footprints (.fp) in there.

gschem does not do anything or know what to do with the footprints.

the following link should provide you with a picaxe 14M symbol
"PICAXE-14M.sym" that you can put in the picaxe directory gschem = looks
in

http://= www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl .

On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:45 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com<= /a>) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delori= e.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Erich Heinzie,
> Sorry it took me a long time to answer - problems with a GSM module. >
> I have found a file:
>
> /usr/share/gEDA/gafrc.d/geda-clib.scm
>
> with the content (the next to last line is added by me):
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("minicircuits" "Mini-Circuits"= )
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("national" "National Semiconductor&= quot;)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("philips" "Philips Electronics"= ;)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("picaxe" "Picaxe chips")
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0("st" "ST Microelectronics") >
> and a file:
>
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/philips
> PCA82C250-1.sym=C2=A0 PCF8563-1.sym
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /usr/share/gEDA/sym/picaxe
> SIP3.fp=C2=A0 SIP4.fp=C2=A0 SO8W.fp
>
> which is reflected in the Gschem selection of component:
>
> > Philips electronics
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PCA82C250-1.sym
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0PCF8563-1.sym
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Picaxe Chips
>
> However, the "Picaxe chips" does not appear in the same way = as "> Philips electronics" with the subordinate points "S= IP3.fp=C2=A0 SIP4.fp=C2=A0 SO8W.fp". If I click "Picaxe chips&quo= t; I close the screen. Obviously it does not make contact with /usr/share/g= EDA/sym/picaxe, SIP3.fp=C2=A0 SIP4.fp=C2=A0 SO8W.fp
> Can you explain the difference between philips and picaxe?
> torben
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 9:19 PM Erich Heinzle (a1039181 AT gma= il.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym?dl
>>
>> The above link will download the raw symbol file as a .sym for use= in the gschem schematic editor
>>
>> The DIP14 footprint required in the pcb layout editor will be a .f= p file and the raw file can be downloaded from
>>
>>
http://www.ged= asymbols.org/footprints/m4lib/DIP14.fp?dl
>>
>> You can place the respective files in the same directory as your s= chematic and pcb layout, but most people will use dedicated directories in = their project directory for symbols and for footprints.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Erich
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 02:34 Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT co= m) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda= -help AT delorie DOT com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I found DIP14:
>>>
>>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ cat /home/torben/gEDAsym
>>> http://www.ge= dasymbols.org/footprints/m4lib.cgi?geda=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0<here
>>>
>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs= .html
>>>
>>> It looks different from your file if I view it..
>>>
>>> Where should I store the file you sent (if it is the file I sh= ould store)?
>>> torben
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (= parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]= <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/user/erich_heinzle/symbols/PICAXE-14M.sym=
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the package is a 14-pin DIP, so "DIP14&= quot; should work as the footprint.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> --Chad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:11 AM Torben Friis (fr= iistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi ,
>>>>> I have been looking fo the above element, but I cannot= find it. I have been looking for .../newlib and found it in two places, bu= t neither one appeared to provide it.
>>>>> Is there anywhere else I can look for it?
>>>>> torben

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