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From: "Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:22:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: [geda-help] Tutorial
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Hi Torben-

As a general rule, you can use anything that you can make work!

I believe that the footprints in newlib/ are part of the standard pcb
library.

There are two types of footprints: M4 and "element files". The things that
you see in the pcblib file are, I believe, data used for generating the M4
footprints. These are old and we are no longer encouraging their use. The
pcblib.contents file is just an index for pcblib.

In general, if there's a specific footprint you need, and you can't find
it, you can ask on the mailing list. It's likely that someone has one that
they haven't published that they would be willing to share.

--Chad

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:29 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via
geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I have noticed the following files exist:
>
> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:~$ ls /home/geda/www/footprints
> CVS         m4lib.cgi    newlib      pcblib
> index.html  m4query.cgi  newlib.cgi  pcblib.contents
>
> Is one of these the one I get as standard when I add a component?
> If yes, can I choose another one?
> best regards
> torben
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:14 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vladimir,
>> Thank you for clarification. I have deleted the file.
>> best regards
>> torben
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:49 PM Vladimir Zhbanov (vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com)
>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:19:08AM -0500, Chad Parker (
>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>> > The file #one.sch# is either a lock file or a backup file, I don't
>>> remember
>>> > which.
>>>
>>> It's backup for unsaved changes. Plain backup filename is
>>> "one.sch~" in this case, i.e. the previously saved version of the
>>> schematic file is saved under this name when the user invokes
>>> "File =E2=86=92 Save".
>>>
>>> --
>>>   Vladimir
>>>
>>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi Torben-</div><div><br></div><div>As a general rule=
, you can use anything that you can make work!</div><div><br></div><div>I b=
elieve that the footprints in newlib/ are part of the standard pcb library.=
</div><div><br></div><div>There are two types of footprints: M4 and &quot;e=
lement files&quot;. The things that you see in the pcblib file are, I belie=
ve, data used for generating the M4 footprints. These are old and we are no=
 longer encouraging their use. The pcblib.contents file is just an index fo=
r pcblib.</div><div><br></div><div>In general, if there&#39;s a specific fo=
otprint you need, and you can&#39;t find it, you can ask on the mailing lis=
t. It&#39;s likely that someone has one that they haven&#39;t published tha=
t they would be willing to share.</div><div><br></div><div>--Chad<br></div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:29 AM Torben Friis (<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gma=
il.com">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com=
">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com">g=
eda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_d=
efault" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Hi=
,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large">I have noticed the following files exist:</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-famil=
y:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:=
~$ ls /home/geda/www/footprints<br>CVS=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 m4lib.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 newlib=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 pcblib<br>index.html=C2=A0 m4query.cgi=C2=A0 newlib.cgi=C2=A0 pcblib.co=
ntents</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helveti=
ca,sans-serif;font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Is one of these=
 the one I get as standard when I add a component?</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">=
If yes, can I choose another one?</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best regards</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-s=
erif;font-size:large">torben<br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail-m_8078303957414836298gmail_attr">On T=
hu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:14 PM Torben Friis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:friistf AT gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">friistf AT gmail DOT com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:larg=
e">Hi Vladimir,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">Thank you for clarification. I have=
 deleted the file.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large">best regards<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:large">torben</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail-m_8078303957414836298gmail-m_1417548814096556065gmail_attr">=
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:49 PM Vladimir Zhbanov (<a href=3D"mailto:vzhbano=
v AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">vzhbanov AT gmail DOT com</a>) [via <a href=3D"mail=
to:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delorie DOT com</a>] &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help AT delori=
e.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex">On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:19:08AM -0500, Chad Parker (<a href=3D"mail=
to:parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com" target=3D"_blank">parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com</a>=
) [via <a href=3D"mailto:geda-help AT delorie DOT com" target=3D"_blank">geda-help=
@delorie.com</a>] wrote:<br>
...<br>
<br>
&gt; The file #one.sch# is either a lock file or a backup file, I don&#39;t=
 remember<br>
&gt; which.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s backup for unsaved changes. Plain backup filename is<br>
&quot;one.sch~&quot; in this case, i.e. the previously saved version of the=
<br>
schematic file is saved under this name when the user invokes<br>
&quot;File =E2=86=92 Save&quot;.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
=C2=A0 Vladimir<br>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>
</blockquote></div>

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