On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 7:56 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via = geda-help AT delori= e.com] <g= eda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:

Hi Torben-

The files $HOME/.gEDA/gafrc is global, and will apply to all designs. If= you have centralized libraries, you would want to include them there. For = example, I have a $HOME/lib/geda/sym directory. So, in $HOME/.gEDA/gafrc, I= have a line that looks like this:

(component-libr= ary "$HOME/lib/geda/sym", "CPark")

=
Any symbol file that I put in $HOME/lib/geda/sym will show up as part = of a library in gschem called "CPark" (substitute $HOME with your= own path absolute path). Paths that you put into this file should be absol= ute paths (e.g. /home/me/lib/geda/sym), not relative (e.g. ./lib/geda/sym).=

For a particular project, my project director= y might look like this:
workspace/
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 t= utorial/
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 syms/
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 my-gschem-symbo= l.sym
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 elements/
<= div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 my-p= cb-footprint.fp
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 gafrc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tutorial.cmd=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tutorial.net
=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tutorial.pcb
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tutorial.prj
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tutorial1.sch
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tutorial2.sch
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
T= he gafrc file that you see there, is local to the project, so, if I execute= the following:
> cd workspace/tutorial
> gschem = &

gschem will use the global file in $HOME/.gE= DA/gafrc and also the project specific gafrc from the working directory. In= the project specific gafrc file, I would have a line:

=
(component-library "./syms" "ProjectSymbols")

and any gschem symbol files I put into the syms subdir= ectory of my project would show up under a library named "ProjectSymbo= ls" in gschem. In the tutorial.prj file, you would add a line:

elements-dir ./elements

so t= hat it knows where to look for project specific footprints.

<= /div>
Now you can copy whatever symbols or footprints you want to use i= nto the syms or elements directories and they should be found.
--Chad

On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 11:21 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]= <geda-help AT d= elorie.com> wrote:
Hi,
I am= still not quite sure what to do. I have created the file:

torben AT to= rben-Aspire-E5-773G:/usr/share/gEDA$ ls /home/.gEDA/gafrc
/home/.gEDA/ga= frc

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/usr/share/gEDA$ cat /home/.gEDA/ga= frc
(component-library-search "../gschem-sym")
I have versi= on GSCHEM 1.8.2.

I suppose that I have to fill the files "gaf/g= schem-sym/" and "gaf/pcb-elements/packages/".

I have = found a file (CVS Access):

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 PCB "~geda" library

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 010= 05 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0201 - Stan= dard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0402 - Standard SMT = resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0603 - Standard SMT resistor,= capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0805 - Standard SMT resistor, capacito= r etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1008 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1206 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 1210 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 1806 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1806 - S= tandard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1825 - Standard S= MT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2706 - Standard SMT resist= or, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ACY1000 - Axial non-polar component= (typically resistor or capacitor),
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ACY1000P - Axial = polar component (typically capacitor),
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 .
=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 .
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 .

If that is indeed the PCB-ele= ments file, where do I find the corresponding symbols file?
best regards=
torben

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:49 PM Chad P= arker (parker= .charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Torben-

Look under the "Setup&q= uot; section of the tutorial where he talks about setting up a project dire= ctory structure.

http://wiki.ged= a-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial#setup

&qu= ot;in each project directory (like myproject1 and myproject2) there could b= e a gafrc file..."

--Chad

On Thu, = Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> = wrote:
Hi Chad,
Before I got your reply I had prepared the following:
I might add that I have added "picaxe" to /usr/share/gEDA/s= ym/ with the following 3 symbols:

SIP3.fp
SIP4.fp
SO8W.fp

but picaxe = does not show up under Library.

I have followed BW's tutorial, but I do not have a gafrc file= . How do I get that?
torben

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:= 43 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi= Chad,
In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols from. = I wanted more - fx. newlib. How do I get it?

I have used the instruc= tions in:

http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html

to place the followi= ng:

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda
CVS=C2=A0 CVSROOT= =C2=A0 scripts=C2=A0 www

where /home/geda was an empty directory.
torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls
2pad.cgi=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 dilpad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.pcb=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 reindex
cgi= -lib.pl=C2=A0 eps2png=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 g= lobal_list.cgi=C2=A0 search.cgi
csv.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprin= t.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0 make-fp-library=C2=A0 symbol.cgi
CVS=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.html=C2=A0 math.pl=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 symbol.html

Can I get from this to a more comprehensive= list of symbols in gschem? I am stuck.
best regards
torben

On Thu, Jan= 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi Ch= ad,
OK. I will try again.
t= orben

On Thu= , Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <= geda-help AT delori= e.com> wrote:
Torben-

The square term= inal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is done so t= hat when you're installing the components, you know the proper orientat= ion. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the design. F= or other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go eith= er way.

Part of the fun of building a circuit = board is figuring out where to place the components and how to connect them= , kind of like a puzzle, but with no one answer. You can place them however= you like. Many people use a strategy where you try to place the parts such= that you minimize the lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You co= uld also arrange them in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anythin= g you find aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency = or high speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of= parts doesn't matter.

--Chad

On Thu, J= an 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wr= ote:
Hi Chad,
Should I place = R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt R103 have round te= rminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones are to be connect= ed to the GND.
I am not an electronics expert.
<= /div>
torben

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com<= /a>) [via geda-h= elp AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Torben-

<= /div>
Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tu= torial. It looks to me like the first set of figures were created with an o= lder version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. Wh= at likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was= redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts would have = been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up changing. The= underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts hav= e been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different.

Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be con= sistent with the connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you = connect your parts accordingly, you should be fine.

Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's consi= stent.

Thanks,
--Chad

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:3= 6 PM Torben Friis (f= riistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
The link is:

http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:g= sch2pcb_tutorial
best regards
torben

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT co= m] <geda-= help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Torben-

Are = you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not sure= what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutorial you= 're referring to?

Thanks,
--Chad=

On Wed, Jan= 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrot= e:
Hi Chad,
I am confused by th= e UBUNTU geda tutorial.
In the beginning R101, R102= and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are plac= ed together in the same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before.
I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB -= but I would take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:large">torben

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:<= br>
Hi Chad,
I deleted all files ex= cept Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it worked.
torben

=
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com<= /a>) [via geda-h= elp AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Torben-
The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. = The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to footpri= nt name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run it, it p= roduces board.new.pcb, which contains the new elements, so that it d= oesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layout, you h= ave to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, select &quo= t;load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. Then yo= u can paste them into the layout.

Alternativel= y, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete board.pc= b and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.

Also, make= sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as sometimes the = elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.

Cheers,
--Chad

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 = PM Torben Friis (fri= istf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi,
It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get:
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:large">
----------------------------= ------
Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed:
5 file elements and 0 m= 4 elements added to board.new.pcb.

Next steps:
1.=C2=A0 Run pcb o= n your file board.pcb.
2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File ->= Load layout data to paste buffer"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and select bo= ard.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout.
3.=C2= =A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and se= lect
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = board.net to load the updated netlist.

4.=C2=A0 From within PCB,= enter

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin names o= f all footprints.

Firs= t it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I am using= the one that comes with Ubuntu.

Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and t= he resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt= I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add = the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear t= o be OK.

As I say,= I am confused.
best ergards
torben

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> w= rote:
It worked.

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker (parker.charles@= gmail.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Torben-

Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post a= ny questions you may have.

I think the issue i= s that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not generatin= g it the way the tutorial thinks it should.

L= ooking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a footprint &= quot;CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purposes. Plea= se try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" = and see if that fixes it.

Thanks,
--Chad=

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:= 00 AM Torben Friis (= friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi,
This is my first attempt at using geda-h= elp.

When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:

gsch2pcb pr= oject

I get the following message in the log:

CONN202: can= 9;t find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).
So d= evice CONN202 will not be in the layout.

The attributes of the conne= ctor are.

device: BNC
footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
refdes: CONN202=

I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wrong?best regards
torben