X-Authentication-Warning: delorie.com: mail set sender to geda-help-bounces using -f X-Recipient: geda-help AT delorie DOT com X-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=I/mUJMB96b7Xb6DDvuvhjj/s/Fei54iOg/xwwLfWMAU=; b=pClq8guYEC8R3IphB4+Qy5iCfYuoEYYVupQpVTX8FqB2Xforr7df4eEsowxLlQ+LBr 7y0xB0PvXDizGLNnGjGPDal4IJJy+eks/N3DJyJP4ll53Mf2OqwhxZfgEbh6yMHRP/7V QAJL/yIOH81F5hHIOdajbjhvulH7ET8T58seGTBuXtupLi24g+dbvxRfubw+zAIGEvmL UgFarVtXlOqbEqJyvgdlALi1au6wT1R/GmwS8EwBxCaTwbxi9O0jbOclO/UGjcy7sWOU OuNL3sosUERuP3IqdRgIVtDGZL8iN98vAzKqzVHXIxDwaJgXZiwnnpSwxpyNFTRE55x5 P5Bg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=I/mUJMB96b7Xb6DDvuvhjj/s/Fei54iOg/xwwLfWMAU=; b=dOiBBOHzQa0wTrTfnHt0BUK12aFDAmSP9IYkbkZGVH1NMNuMVHxBftr3xUeYYvqpFE MJ3cRf8khR7wiFIuwIKN1rY4DH4g5wr4pzNqGOgrPxhdCgF3aa3tgLHt+kKR1zLIMNnY OxA2jb1/sCoG397EnmnjwXr9Nd0l60VctJSYkUSYcmoXkPUINwQA94Q9+oBIOsLckiLv 9aJYtDrrUZmOkkmcC9/tjHchEJje5krzbUjBO9ICyeyWH3Ff15uoRg8HTaRRWIja2nrl B1971YBc9lwrHSnusrp0eiDnxdubqfXyDFrZh6Tej+Ab6nrsXGb57i672KyYDFwgDiNw QWgQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukeiiJOUeTXw0bQirjDiztMCXIAR/j92xTPF3UR/ZDzv3MeAG8qM W52bUSf2apg5/LgPO/7EuQqKnUtoZgdKrN1LV6IeO5F+6J8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN6pbeq79bhEhorqbsYi/sEn0sYM43147/CwfVihn0YdIRCB91+w7P69H3zUuS/YyTUwa0hhusnOdPk/GrrN9jg= X-Received: by 2002:a25:2e0e:: with SMTP id u14mr17425899ybu.448.1548173791449; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 08:16:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: "Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com]" Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:16:18 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [geda-help] Tutorial To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e3da7f05800e4cf7" Reply-To: geda-help AT delorie DOT com --000000000000e3da7f05800e4cf7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi, I am still not quite sure what to do. I have created the file: torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/usr/share/gEDA$ ls /home/.gEDA/gafrc /home/.gEDA/gafrc torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/usr/share/gEDA$ cat /home/.gEDA/gafrc (component-library-search "../gschem-sym") I have version GSCHEM 1.8.2. I suppose that I have to fill the files "gaf/gschem-sym/" and "gaf/pcb-elements/packages/". I have found a file (CVS Access): PCB "~geda" library 01005 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 0201 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 0402 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 0603 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 0805 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 1008 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 1206 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 1210 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 1806 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 1806 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 1825 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc 2706 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc ACY1000 - Axial non-polar component (typically resistor or capacitor), ACY1000P - Axial polar component (typically capacitor), . . . If that is indeed the PCB-elements file, where do I find the corresponding symbols file? best regards torben On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:49 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > Torben- > > Look under the "Setup" section of the tutorial where he talks about > setting up a project directory structure. > > http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial#setup > > "in each project directory (like myproject1 and myproject2) there could be > a *gafrc* file..." > > --Chad > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 4:14 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via > geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: > >> Hi Chad, >> Before I got your reply I had prepared the following: >> I might add that I have added "picaxe" to /usr/share/gEDA/sym/ with the >> following 3 symbols: >> >> SIP3.fp >> SIP4.fp >> SO8W.fp >> >> but picaxe does not show up under Library. >> >> I have followed BW's tutorial, but I do not have a gafrc file. How do I >> get that? >> torben >> >> On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 1:43 PM Torben Friis wrote: >> >>> Hi Chad, >>> In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols from. I wanted more - >>> fx. newlib. How do I get it? >>> >>> I have used the instructions in: >>> >>> http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html >>> >>> to place the following: >>> >>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda >>> CVS CVSROOT scripts www >>> >>> where /home/geda was an empty directory. >>> >>> torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls >>> 2pad.cgi dilpad.cgi footprint.pcb reindex >>> cgi-lib.pl eps2png global_list.cgi search.cgi >>> csv.cgi footprint.cgi make-fp-library symbol.cgi >>> CVS footprint.html math.pl symbol.html >>> >>> Can I get from this to a more comprehensive list of symbols in gschem? I >>> am stuck. >>> best regards >>> torben >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Chad, >>>> OK. I will try again. >>>> torben >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:45 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) >>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Torben- >>>>> >>>>> The square terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is >>>>> done so that when you're installing the components, you know the proper >>>>> orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the >>>>> design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they can go >>>>> either way. >>>>> >>>>> Part of the fun of building a circuit board is figuring out where to >>>>> place the components and how to connect them, kind of like a puzzle, but >>>>> with no one answer. You can place them however you like. Many people use a >>>>> strategy where you try to place the parts such that you minimize the >>>>> lengths of the traces connecting those parts. You could also arrange them >>>>> in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, or anything you find >>>>> aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio frequency or high >>>>> speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact placement of parts >>>>> doesn't matter. >>>>> >>>>> --Chad >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 9:32 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via >>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chad, >>>>>> Should I place R101, R102 and R103 together? And if I do, should'nt >>>>>> R103 have round terminal points at both ends? I assume that the square ones >>>>>> are to be connected to the GND. >>>>>> I am not an electronics expert. >>>>>> torben >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 2:13 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) >>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Torben- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug in the tutorial. >>>>>>> It looks to me like the first set of figures were created with an older >>>>>>> version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later date. What >>>>>>> likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schematic was >>>>>>> redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts would have >>>>>>> been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up changing. The >>>>>>> underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the parts have >>>>>>> been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is different. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb should be consistent with the >>>>>>> connections you made in the schematic. So, as long as you connect your >>>>>>> parts accordingly, you should be fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it's >>>>>>> consistent. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> --Chad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) >>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Chad, >>>>>>>> The link is: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://wiki.geda-project.org/geda:gsch2pcb_tutorial >>>>>>>> best regards >>>>>>>> torben >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker ( >>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] < >>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Torben- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm >>>>>>>>> not sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the >>>>>>>>> tutorial you're referring to? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> --Chad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) >>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Chad, >>>>>>>>>> I am confused by the UBUNTU geda tutorial. >>>>>>>>>> In the beginning R101, R102 and R103 are placed together. On page >>>>>>>>>> 6 R102, R201 and R103 are placed together in the same place and R102 is >>>>>>>>>> placed where R201 was before. >>>>>>>>>> I have other problems - fx with lines created in PCB - but I >>>>>>>>>> would take one example to see if the confusion is my problem. >>>>>>>>>> torben >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chad, >>>>>>>>>>> I deleted all files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran >>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb once - and it worked. >>>>>>>>>>> torben >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker ( >>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] < >>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the differences. >>>>>>>>>>>> The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to >>>>>>>>>>>> footprint name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run >>>>>>>>>>>> it, it produces board.*new*.pcb, which contains the new >>>>>>>>>>>> elements, so that it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into >>>>>>>>>>>> the layout, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file >>>>>>>>>>>> menu, select "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb. >>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can paste them into the layout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you >>>>>>>>>>>> can delete board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All >>>>>>>>>>>> Elements, as sometimes the elements will overlap when they're brought into >>>>>>>>>>>> the layout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) >>>>>>>>>>>> [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Done processing. Work performed: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 file elements and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Next steps: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Run pcb on your file board.pcb. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. From within PCB, select "File -> Load layout data to paste >>>>>>>>>>>>> buffer" >>>>>>>>>>>>> and select board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into >>>>>>>>>>>>> your existing layout. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file" and >>>>>>>>>>>>> select >>>>>>>>>>>>> board.net to load the updated netlist. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. From within PCB, enter >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> :ExecuteFile(board.cmd) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> to update the pin names of all footprints. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> First it does not tally with the description given in the >>>>>>>>>>>>> tutorial - I am using the one that comes with Ubuntu. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transistor and >>>>>>>>>>>>> the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should'nt I >>>>>>>>>>>>> get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above I add the >>>>>>>>>>>>> one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch appear to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As I say, I am confused. >>>>>>>>>>>>> best ergards >>>>>>>>>>>>> torben >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis < >>>>>>>>>>>>> friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It worked. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:26 PM Chad Parker ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>> parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Torben- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Welcome to the community! Please feel free to post any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions you may have. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> element, so, it's not generating it the way the tutorial thinks it should. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however, a footprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> purposes. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 2" and see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if that fixes it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Chad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is my first attempt at using geda-help. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gsch2pcb project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I get the following message in the log: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CONN202: can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (value=unknown). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So device CONN202 will not be in the layout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The attributes of the connector are. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> device: BNC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> refdes: CONN202 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> torben >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --000000000000e3da7f05800e4cf7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
I am still not = quite sure what to do. I have created the file:

torben AT torben-Aspire= -E5-773G:/usr/share/gEDA$ ls /home/.gEDA/gafrc
/home/.gEDA/gafrc

= torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/usr/share/gEDA$ cat /home/.gEDA/gafrc
(com= ponent-library-search "../gschem-sym")
I have version GSCHEM 1= .8.2.

I suppose that I have to fill the files "gaf/gschem-sym/&= quot; and "gaf/pcb-elements/packages/".

I have found a fil= e (CVS Access):

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 PCB "~geda" library

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 01005 - Stan= dard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0201 - Standard SMT = resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0402 - Standard SMT resistor,= capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0603 - Standard SMT resistor, capacito= r etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0805 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1008 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 1206 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= 1210 - Standard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1806 - S= tandard SMT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1806 - Standard S= MT resistor, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1825 - Standard SMT resist= or, capacitor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2706 - Standard SMT resistor, capac= itor etc
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ACY1000 - Axial non-polar component (typical= ly resistor or capacitor),
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ACY1000P - Axial polar com= ponent (typically capacitor),
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 .
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 .
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 .

If that is indeed the PCB-elements fil= e, where do I find the corresponding symbols file?
best regards
torbe= n


On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:49 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
=
Torben-

Look under the "S= etup" section of the tutorial where he talks about setting up a projec= t directory structure.


"in each project directory (like myproject1 and myproject2) there c= ould be a gafrc file..."

--C= had


Hi Chad,
In gschem I only have "library" to chose symbols = from. I wanted more - fx. newlib. How do I get it?

I have used the i= nstructions in:

http://www.gedasymbols.org/cvs.html

to place the f= ollowing:

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G: ls /home/geda
CVS=C2=A0 C= VSROOT=C2=A0 scripts=C2=A0 www

where /home/geda was an empty directo= ry.

torben AT torben-Aspire-E5-773G:/home/geda/scripts$ ls
2pad.cgi= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dilpad.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.pcb= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 reindex
cgi-lib.pl=C2=A0 eps2png=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 global_list.cgi=C2=A0 search.cgi
csv.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = footprint.cgi=C2=A0=C2=A0 make-fp-library=C2=A0 symbol.cgi
CVS=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 footprint.html=C2=A0 math.pl=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 symbol.html

Can I get from this to a more comp= rehensive list of symbols in gschem? I am stuck.
best regards
torben<= br>

On= Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:58 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
Hi Chad,
OK. I will try again.
torben

Torben-

The s= quare terminal generally indicates "pin 1" of the device. This is= done so that when you're installing the components, you know the prope= r orientation. For some parts this is important, like for the opamps in the= design. For other parts, like the resistors, it doesn't matter, they c= an go either way.

Part of the fun of building = a circuit board is figuring out where to place the components and how to co= nnect them, kind of like a puzzle, but with no one answer. You can place th= em however you like. Many people use a strategy where you try to place the = parts such that you minimize the lengths of the traces connecting those par= ts. You could also arrange them in a pattern to resemble a bug, or a star, = or anything you find aesthetically pleasing. In most cases (i.e. not radio = frequency or high speed (>10s of MHz) digital electronics), the exact pl= acement of parts doesn't matter.

--Chad



Torben-

Okay, I see what you're referring to. This is a bug i= n the tutorial. It looks to me like the first set of figures were created w= ith an older version of PCB and the other set with a newer one and a later = date. What likely happened is that the same circuit was used, but the schem= atic was redrawn when the new figures were added, and because the parts wou= ld have been arranged differently, the reference designators ended up chang= ing. The underlying circuit appears to be the same, just the names of the p= arts have been swapped. You can even see that the footprint of R101 is diff= erent.

Ultimately, the rat lines on your pcb shoul= d be consistent with the connections you made in the schematic. So, as long= as you connect your parts accordingly, you should be fine.
<= br>
Thanks for pointing this out. We should fix it so that it'= ;s consistent.

Thanks,
--Chad

On Wed, Jan 2, 201= 9 at 5:36 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
<= /div>
Hi Chad,
The link is:

best regards
torben

On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gmail DOT com) [via= geda-help AT delor= ie.com] <= geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Torben-

Are you still working through the Bill Wilson tutorial? If so, I'm not= sure what you mean by page 6. Can you please provide a link to the tutoria= l you're referring to?

Thanks,
-= -Chad

On Wed= , Jan 2, 2019 at 3:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com>= wrote:
Hi Chad,
I am confused = by the UBUNTU geda tutorial.
In the beginning R101,= R102 and R103 are placed together. On page 6=C2=A0 R102, R201 and R103 are= placed together in the same place and R102 is placed where R201 was before= .
I have other problems - fx with lines created in = PCB - but I would take one example to see if the confusion is my problem.
torben

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM Torben Friis <friistf AT gmail DOT com> w= rote:
Hi Chad,
I deleted all = files except Project, one.sch and two.sch and ran gsch2pcb once - and it wo= rked.
torben

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 11:11 PM Chad Parker (parker DOT charles AT gm= ail.com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi Torben-

The second time you run gsch2pcb it looks at the diffe= rences. The first time it may not have picked up all of the elements due to= footprint name errors. The second time (and all subsequent times) you run = it, it produces board.new.pcb, which contains the new elements, so t= hat it doesn't overwrite your original file. To get them into the layou= t, you have to do as it says: open the layout then go to the file menu, sel= ect "load layout data to paste buffer", and select board.new.pcb.= Then you can paste them into the layout.

Alte= rnatively, if you haven't done any work on the pcb yet, you can delete = board.pcb and board.new.pcb and rerun gsch2pcb.

Al= so, make sure that you execute Select > Disperse All Elements, as someti= mes the elements will overlap when they're brought into the layout.
=

Cheers,
--Chad

=

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 = at 2:44 PM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
Hi,
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:large">It is rather confusing. When I run gsch2pcb project I get= :

--------------------= --------------
Done processing.=C2=A0 Work performed:
5 file elements= and 0 m4 elements added to board.new.pcb.

Next steps:
1.=C2=A0 R= un pcb on your file board.pcb.
2.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "Fi= le -> Load layout data to paste buffer"
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 and s= elect board.new.pcb to load the new footprints into your existing layout.3.=C2=A0 From within PCB, select "File -> Load netlist file"= and select
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 board.net to load the updated netlist.

4.=C2=A0 From with= in PCB, enter

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 :ExecuteFile(board.cmd)

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 to update the pin = names of all footprints.

First it does not tally with the description given in the tutorial - I a= m using the one that comes with Ubuntu.

<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:large">Second, when I run pcb board.pcb I get only the transisto= r and the resistor on the screen with a yellow line leading nowhere. Should= 'nt I get both one.sch and two.sch? If I folllow the instructions above= I add the one.sch to the screen all bundled up. Both one.sch and two.sch a= ppear to be OK.

As= I say, I am confused.
best ergards
torben

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 3:46 PM Torben Friis <= friistf AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
It worked.

Hi To= rben-

Welcome to the community! Please feel free t= o post any questions you may have.

I think the= issue is that the CONNECTOR is no longer an m4 element, so, it's not g= enerating it the way the tutorial thinks it should.

Looking through the pcb element footprints, there is, however, a foo= tprint "CONNECTOR 1 2". I suspect that will serve for your purpos= es. Please try changing "CONNECTOR 2 1" --> "CONNECTOR 1 = 2" and see if that fixes it.

Thanks,
--Chad





On Wed, Dec 26, 20= 18 at 7:00 AM Torben Friis (friistf AT gmail DOT com) [via geda-help AT delorie DOT com] <geda-help AT delorie DOT com> wrote:
=
Hi,
This is my first attempt at using = geda-help.

When in the Bill Wilson gEDA tutorial I use:

gsch2= pcb project

I get the following message in the log:

CONN202: = can't find PCB element for footprint CONNECTOR-2-1 (value=3Dunknown).So device CONN202 will not be in the layout.

The attributes of the= connector are.

device: BNC
footprint: CONNECTOR 2 1
refdes: C= ONN202

I think that I have followed the instructions, so what is wro= ng?
best regards
torben
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